tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post8603261168212487550..comments2024-03-28T10:18:00.370-05:00Comments on Gentlemen of Leisure: X-amining Excalibur #16Austin Gortonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-7244955412179787832016-01-31T01:35:42.435-06:002016-01-31T01:35:42.435-06:00Actually, she will celebrate her 15th birthday in ...Actually, she will celebrate her 15th birthday in a future issue, so she's actually 14 here.Bedfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02833301170976646038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-8834831070967542352015-03-19T13:43:27.272-05:002015-03-19T13:43:27.272-05:00Being that I was nearly 15 when this issue came ou...Being that I was nearly 15 when this issue came out, I'm going to excuse myself from any creepiness in admitting that at the time, the Kitty "cheesecake" didn't bother me.Joe Pacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08347462635438263614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-16943109088776942032015-02-15T10:27:23.069-06:002015-02-15T10:27:23.069-06:00I'm curious why it wasn't acknowledged in ...<br>I'm curious why it wasn't acknowledged in the story that Kymri and her pirate band are pointy-eared, fanged, and the same color as Kurt (apart from on the cover). Dunno if they're fuzzy like him, since you can't tell from looking; we only know <i>he's</i> a "fuzzy elf" 'cause we've been told.<br /><br /><i>// Kitty uses her martial arts training to free them //</i><br /><br />Which is great except for her odd "Hey, I used to be a ninja! <i>{giggle}</i> I wonder if I remember how!!!" dialogue*. [*Not exactly verbatim.]<br /><br /><i>// Edgar Rice Burroughs' Martian Chronicles //</i><br /><br />I'm no expert on the stuff either but I think they're known as the Chronicles of Mars (or even the Mars Chronicles, perhaps) rather than the Martian Chronicles, which was the title of a Ray Bradbury book turned into a TV miniseries that creeped me out at 9 years old. Anyway, outside of that usage of the logo for Marvel's <i>John Carter, Warlord of Mars</i> series, I didn't really notice any direct similarity to what little of the Burroughs stories I know.<br /><br>Blamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342343767763035991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-73194143198307730452015-02-14T07:37:05.409-06:002015-02-14T07:37:05.409-06:00Overall, this is a fun, decent issue. I think the ...Overall, this is a fun, decent issue. I think the main problem is, at this point, much like the stories running along in X-factor and New Mutants, you have a certain fatigue setting in. There is definitely a feeling of "Well, yes, this is nice and all, but can we move along and get to the point, please?"<br /><br />Much like the XF and NM stories, I also feel this story would be better remembered had it to be trimmed down a bit. But at least with XF and NW, there is some sort of plot that is going. Here, the characters are just bouncing around from one dimension to the next, with no rhyme or reason, suggesting CC really had no idea what to do with this title, other than "Leftover X-character hanging out together based in Europe". wwk5dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-10788445484238080402015-02-13T22:48:03.518-06:002015-02-13T22:48:03.518-06:00"Good to know. When does he bring it up again..."Good to know. When does he bring it up again (I honestly can't remember)?"<br />X-Treme X-Men 25.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-3054945607475464942015-02-13T22:02:47.358-06:002015-02-13T22:02:47.358-06:00Tullamore Vogue’s slaver race first appears here, ...Tullamore Vogue’s slaver race first appears here, and there seemed to be a connection between his Hounds' and those from Rachel Grey's Days of Future Past experience, including the studded bonded costumes and facial tattoos. Fat Smurf Man is a bit like the Shadow King, too. Where Claremont was going with all these overlaps isn't clear.Nathan Adlerhttp://fanfix.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-18914727866223548342015-02-13T13:06:46.836-06:002015-02-13T13:06:46.836-06:00@Matt: Also, I love that the word "warlord&qu...@Matt: <i>Also, I love that the word "warlord" on the cover is from the logo of Marvel's "Warlord of Mars" series from the seventies (on which young Chris Claremont did some writing).</i><br /><br />That connection I did catch. Any others in the story itself I missed. <br /><br />@Jason: <i>Trivia: This is one of eight single issues Claremont hand selected for his own X-Men Visionaries volume.</i><br /><br />Dang, I forgot that. I've been trying to call out the issues collected in that volume. <br /><br />My response to it aside, it's curious he picked this one of all the possible <i>Excalibur</i>/"Cross Time" issues. Maybe he especially liked the connection to his old "Warlord of Mars" work?<br /><br />@Anonymous: <i>Or to be more accurate, an act which Claremont forgets about for a decade and a half, and then tries to convince us that has been bothering her all along.</i><br /><br />Good to know. When does he bring it up again (I honestly can't remember)? <br /><br />@Mike: <i>While it doesn't break new ground or comment too heavily on genre conventions, it's fun.</i><br /><br />For me, I think it ultimately suffered coming after the previous issue, which was such a refreshing break from the usual "Cross Time" routine, and the fact that I spent much of it wondering if there were specific references to other things I was missing, rather than enjoying the story on its own merits. Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-84934145759906647742015-02-13T10:03:40.201-06:002015-02-13T10:03:40.201-06:00I also liked this issue quite a bit due to the foc...I also liked this issue quite a bit due to the focus on Nightcrawler, genre goofiness, and Davis art. In fact, it's one of my favorite issues of the series, barring Davis's solo run. While it doesn't break new ground or comment too heavily on genre conventions, it's fun. <br /><br />- Mike Loughlin Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-37075746452676325572015-02-13T08:50:53.353-06:002015-02-13T08:50:53.353-06:00Anonymous -- "The Kitty cheesecake is just cr...Anonymous -- "<b>The Kitty cheesecake is just creepy, though</b>..."<br /><br />Yeah, I was speaking in terms of Anjulie and Kymrie.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580725636327122073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-20436160361410337782015-02-13T06:56:01.114-06:002015-02-13T06:56:01.114-06:00"Kitty kills Anjulie in this issue, an act, I..."Kitty kills Anjulie in this issue, an act, I'm led to understand, which will haunt her moving forward"<br />Or to be more accurate, an act which Claremont forgets about for a decade and a half, and then tries to convince us that has been bothering her all along.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-42111623755094710162015-02-12T18:58:39.225-06:002015-02-12T18:58:39.225-06:00"It was probably the high point of "Cros..."It was probably the high point of "Cross-Time" for me, mainly due to the larger-than-normal focus on Nightcrawler and the delightful Davis cheesecake."<br />The Kitty cheesecake is just creepy, though, considering that she's supposed to be 15, especially considering that Davis doesn't draw her flat chested in this arc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-66764010821004478682015-02-12T18:17:25.056-06:002015-02-12T18:17:25.056-06:00Trivia: This is one of eight single issues Claremo...Trivia: This is one of eight single issues Claremont hand selected for his own X-Men Visionaries volume.<br /><br />Kymri appears in Claremont's X-Men: The End.<br /><br />There is a male alien character named Kymri in Claremont's prose novel, published in 1991, Grounded.Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13298753675007196538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-505286462094532652015-02-12T14:45:08.248-06:002015-02-12T14:45:08.248-06:00Funny, I actually liked this one. It was probably...Funny, I actually liked this one. It was probably the high point of "Cross-Time" for me, mainly due to the larger-than-normal focus on Nightcrawler and the delightful Davis cheesecake.<br /><br />Also, I love that the word "warlord" on the cover is from the logo of Marvel's "Warlord of Mars" series from the seventies (on which young Chris Claremont did some writing).Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580725636327122073noreply@blogger.com