tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post6739295174686055058..comments2024-03-22T04:20:11.870-05:00Comments on Gentlemen of Leisure: X-amining Fantastic Four #347-349Austin Gortonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-26732637069348193772015-11-20T16:02:52.134-06:002015-11-20T16:02:52.134-06:00Indeed and the lettering on issue #1 gives away a ...Indeed and the lettering on issue #1 gives away a late in the day change to acknowledge this isn't the original Thor. Throughout the series Eric is written as far more confident than in his own title.Tim Roll-Pickeringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12589024696145675963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-47882636256657036622015-11-20T15:50:15.759-06:002015-11-20T15:50:15.759-06:00George Pérez had to redraw a few things in INFINIT...George Pérez had to redraw a few things in INFINITY GAUNTLET. The Omnibus collection has some of his old cover art side-by-side with the new. He started out drawing classic Thor, for example, and had to change him to the Eric Masterson version.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580725636327122073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-39374953820987868702015-11-18T10:46:43.300-06:002015-11-18T10:46:43.300-06:00Now I know there is a very special hell reserved f...Now I know there is a very special hell reserved for the likes of me, BUT... you can't read INFINITY GAUNTLET without missing a Thing.Teemunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-62816715889282459722015-11-18T09:09:46.754-06:002015-11-18T09:09:46.754-06:00Yeah, I wasn't planning on reviewing INFINITY ...Yeah, I wasn't planning on reviewing INFINITY GAUNTLET (or any of the INFINITY series). Wolverine & Cyclops pretty much just hang around and throw a few hits on Thanos in the first story, and while I know Storm is more integral to CRUSADE, nothing that happens in any of the series ever has an impact or gets referenced much at all in any of the X-books (versus, say, the Spider-Man books, where Doppelganger becomes a recurring antagonist springing out of INFINITY WAR). <br /><br />Basically, you can read every single X-Book and not read any of the INFINITY series, and not feel like you're missing a thing. So that pretty much excuses them from the purview of X-aminations. Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-22688774290712095032015-11-18T08:54:45.603-06:002015-11-18T08:54:45.603-06:00Perez can be forgiven using possibly slightly outd...Perez can be forgiven using possibly slightly outdated reference sheets, when the Avengers themselves list "Marvel Girl" as one of those disappeared in her green&yellow pre-FotM costume on their screen.<br /><br />And, for the record, slamming adamantium claws into someone's chest also counts as "interacting", god or not.<br /><br />Infinity Gauntlet may not be X-amined for aforementioned reasons, then, despite the X-folks getting more presence in the sequels?Teemunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-65571394405715159212015-11-18T07:11:32.497-06:002015-11-18T07:11:32.497-06:00Placing IG between Muir Island and X-Men 1, while ...Placing IG between Muir Island and X-Men 1, while not wrong per se, just doesn't feel right either, for some reason. <br /><br />Granted, Cyclops barely has any lines in the story, and doesn't interact with Wolverine (who did interact with the Hulk), which makes them appearing pointless. Then again, I heard Bob Harras didn't want the X-men too involved in the story, and would only let Starlin use a couple of characters.<br /><br />wwk5dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-25106203810914765632015-11-17T23:13:53.638-06:002015-11-17T23:13:53.638-06:00He appears in his Portacio costume-I don't see...He appears in his Portacio costume-I don't see what's wrong with placing IG between Muir Island and X-Men 1.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-89456097893338580392015-11-17T15:11:58.880-06:002015-11-17T15:11:58.880-06:00Especially since Cyclops appears in the wrong cost...Especially since Cyclops appears in the wrong costume (the old X-Factor one, I think?), doesn't he? I believe that's been chalked up to Perez working off the wrong reference sheets, or something, but it's still a strange fit. <br /><br />The Marvel Chronology Project puts IG basically between the end of the "Muir Island Saga" and before the linewide relaunch, but even that is still somewhat problematic. <br /><br />Of course, Cyclops and Wolverine don't really do much in IG, so it's not as egregious, I suppose. Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-9981092128647634302015-11-17T15:02:38.003-06:002015-11-17T15:02:38.003-06:00Yeah, I guess that makes sense. Its him and Cyclop...Yeah, I guess that makes sense. Its him and Cyclops appearing in Infinity Gauntlet that is hard to make sense of. wwk5dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-15846573104276922242015-11-17T13:32:39.223-06:002015-11-17T13:32:39.223-06:00If I recall correctly, it's really somehow a p...If I recall correctly, it's really somehow a preview for Secret Defenders, which was the ultimate non-team. For here it's probably just yet another Wolverine appearance.Tim Roll-Pickeringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12589024696145675963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-65049317734956793652015-11-17T13:31:54.331-06:002015-11-17T13:31:54.331-06:00I had the same thought about the journey from DC t...I had the same thought about the journey from DC to Bermuda Triangle. I even went back and double checked that they were indeed in the skies above DC, because I thought "wow, that was fast!". <br /><br />Also, I totally meant to mention that technically, the Alicia in this story is a Skrull as well, then plum forgot, so thanks for pointing that out. Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-58636500782989588822015-11-17T13:30:06.551-06:002015-11-17T13:30:06.551-06:00Yeah, this fits between "X-Tinction" and...Yeah, this fits between "X-Tinction" and UXM #273 (I suppose I should have pointed out that nobody had to go through the whole "I thought you were dead!" rigmarole with Wolverine, since the X-Men were revealed to the world at large as being alive in "X-Tinction"). The current Spanish Civil War arc in WOLVERINE falls in after this, then it's UXM #273 and the subsequent Shi'ar story through to issue #277. Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-46538290257128824402015-11-17T13:27:11.575-06:002015-11-17T13:27:11.575-06:00I know of that issue, but haven't read it; is ...I know of that issue, but haven't read it; is it worth examining from an X-Men perspective, or is it pretty much just "Wolverine shows up, gets mad, slashes Thing's face so now he has to wear a kewl 90s mask"? Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-47649638871658573962015-11-17T13:26:04.198-06:002015-11-17T13:26:04.198-06:00Ah yeah, I forgot about that "Ages of Apocaly...Ah yeah, I forgot about that "Ages of Apocalypse" story, which definitely references this one. <br /><br />And ditto on the sequence culminating in Wolverine taking the elevator up to the top of Four Freedoms Plaza. Great little bit of comic writing/drawing there. Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-44349843475725204412015-11-16T14:47:37.928-06:002015-11-16T14:47:37.928-06:00Silver Surfer annual #1 has the Eternals stating o...Silver Surfer annual #1 has the Eternals stating outright that the Skrulls were their race's Deviants but it's such a throwaway fact that it almost certainly had been revealed clearly before.Tim Roll-Pickeringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12589024696145675963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-7079968247682794122015-11-16T14:45:41.660-06:002015-11-16T14:45:41.660-06:00Web was the title that replaced Marvel Team-Up. I ...Web was the title that replaced Marvel Team-Up. I guess some ideas got implemented regardless.<br /><br />Also there was a period in the early to mid 1980s when a lot of annuals tended to forget who the star of the book was.Tim Roll-Pickeringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12589024696145675963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-24374059327717806752015-11-14T06:18:41.270-06:002015-11-14T06:18:41.270-06:00Thanks, Anonymous… I have considerable holes in my...Thanks, Anonymous… I have considerable holes in my knowledge of cosmic Marvel and, say, late-‘80s Marvel on up in general, which at this point basically just means considerable holes in my knowledge of Marvel. Where has the time gone?Blamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342343767763035991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-8008222456390178102015-11-13T08:48:06.376-06:002015-11-13T08:48:06.376-06:00... nope, I was thinking exactly the same WEB annu...... nope, I was thinking exactly the same WEB annual you mentioned. I was certain that one was a MTU issue or annual. What the hell are the New Mutants doing on WEB in the first place!?<br /><br />I wonder if Adams was deliberately going towards the McFarlane looks here, considering the general ethos of parodying the tapping into the popular characters.Teemunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-16717477265525809582015-11-13T08:39:02.349-06:002015-11-13T08:39:02.349-06:00There was a Marvel Team-Up issue co-starred by War...There was a Marvel Team-Up issue co-starred by Warlock of the New Mutants that was drawn by Adams.Teemunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-39147364320413188442015-11-12T11:26:36.693-06:002015-11-12T11:26:36.693-06:00Funny, I've never read these issues despite th...Funny, I've never read these issues despite their being considered "essential" nineties Marvel.<br /><br />But wow, Art Adams draws a heck of a Spider-Man!! I know he never really had a actual "run" on anything, but I would've loved to have seen him tackle Spider-Man in a mini-series or an annual or something. He did do a WEB annual with Ann Nocenti, but that was the black costume. (And I love the black costume, but seeing his rendition here of the classic outfit makes me wish he could've done more work with that.)Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580725636327122073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-71973405867573881482015-11-12T07:34:07.931-06:002015-11-12T07:34:07.931-06:00Oh, right, the middle of Bermuda triangle angle. M...Oh, right, the middle of Bermuda triangle angle. Magneto's island that the X-Men went on to adopt for a while should be just around the corner then, which is funny considering that it's where Belasco had <i>some</i> connection to so he could kidnap Illyana from there and that Belasco's "Children of the Dis" seem to be essentially Moloids. The Subterranea seems to be quite connected.Teemunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-45520740934558072282015-11-12T07:01:04.904-06:002015-11-12T07:01:04.904-06:00Blam, the idea, which had been hinted at before, i...Blam, the idea, which had been hinted at before, is that the Skrulls are the Deviants of their race. So since the monster were created by the Deviants, the Skrulls have an affinity towards them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-41352120955495978392015-11-12T06:50:11.003-06:002015-11-12T06:50:11.003-06:00// simply too much fun to pass up //
I bought #34...<br><i>// simply too much fun to pass up //</i><br /><br />I bought #348 off the spinner rack at a drug store despite caring very little for ‘90s Marvel (and having a tight budget in college) for just those reasons.<br /><br />Quick hits:<br /><br />The new team makes it from Washington, DC, to the Bermuda Triangle <i>way</i> too quickly.<br /><br />Mole Man doesn’t recognize Skrulls. It’s weird to think that he and they were introduced back-to-back nearly 40 years before this in <i>FF</i> #1 & #2 yet haven’t crossed paths until now — nor are Skrulls a known enough commodity to the wider world yet that he’d know them on sight. <br /><br />Of course the would-be Alicia seen here actually turns out to be a Skrull at the hands of the next creative team, which renders her dispatch by De’Lila rather funny in retrospect.<br /><br />I wondered if the Skrull-like readings on Monster Isle ever paid off, like it was revealed that early Skrulls or some kind of <i>ur</i>-Skrull race had settled on Earth and become stuck in various creature forms, because nothing really comes of it here.<br /><br />There’s a panel in #347 of Spider-Man having landed in a crouch next to Hulk and Logan that I really like. <br /><br>Blamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342343767763035991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-22433892578629199912015-11-12T04:51:52.794-06:002015-11-12T04:51:52.794-06:00The monster which ends up bonding with the robot D...<i>The monster which ends up bonding with the robot De'Lila is after is the same monster which menaced the Fantastic Four in their first appearance (and can be seen on the cover of Fantastic Four #1).</i><br /><br />Oh bloody hell. The Marvel Saga, official history of Marvel Universe, has done me ill. I did know the FF first met the menace of Mole-Man, but somehow I always thought it was Gormuu, the warrior of Kraalo on the cover of FF#1. Gotta read them too now that I have access. I took a sneak-peek, the three-headed flying one that Punisher follows is also from FF#1. This is Continuity Call-back Done Right.<br /><br />Also, I did know Mole-Man was rendered blind in an accident (courtesy of Marvel Saga), but didn't know he had also got a radar sense that helps him with his fighting people with a stick.<br /><br /><i>Meanwhile, the Skrulls pursuing her arrive on Earth and are drawn to Monster Island by readings which suggest the monsters which dwell there share some Skrull DNA.</i><br /><br />I'm in understanding it would be revealed at some point that the Skrulls are the Deviants equivalent of their own race, explaining the thing with the Monster Island monsters being Deviant offsprings. The Simonsons were awfully lot into the Celestials (planning a Havok&Polaris limited series at some point connecting to them), I wonder if they managed to get everything out.Teemunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-83695479714421286872015-11-11T22:44:59.802-06:002015-11-11T22:44:59.802-06:00They also appeared in a What If...? story as well....They also appeared in a What If...? story as well. Something along the lines of What If The New FF Stayed Together? or something.<br /><br />Just curious, where and how does Wolverine fit in to this story, continuity wise? I guess it could fit in-between X-Tinction Agenda and Uncanny #273...<br /><br />Still, it's a fun story drawn by Art Adams. Can't go wrong with that. wwk5dnoreply@blogger.com