tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post4716844724945871961..comments2024-03-22T04:20:11.870-05:00Comments on Gentlemen of Leisure: X-amining Excalibur #4Austin Gortonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-64235748490842129202019-01-24T11:16:01.397-06:002019-01-24T11:16:01.397-06:00Wow...Wow...Vadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05683269196860522264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-21456551495114352912014-07-23T22:02:30.330-05:002014-07-23T22:02:30.330-05:00@wwk5d- What happened was this- Kitty suggested to...@wwk5d- What happened was this- Kitty suggested to Rachel that she dress more conservatively, Rachel responded by turning Kitty's outfit into something slutty, and Meggan later innocently complimented Kitty on her new look. The "bimbos" are Rachel and Meggan. It's not fair for Kitty to get mad at Meggan but she only thought of her as a bimbo- she didn't say it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-82957200861022038172014-07-23T06:13:29.210-05:002014-07-23T06:13:29.210-05:00"Yeah but weren't most of the people kill..."Yeah but weren't most of the people killed off in that dumb series created just for that series? It's not like they had the balls to kill off X-23 or anyone major."<br /><br />They killed off a bunch of characters from Avengers Academy (which I really enjoyed) and Runaways, too, and that's what annoys me. These aren't characters likely to get a revival. Why break the toys instead of leaving them in the toybox for someone with a better idea to use?Melahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05539894845356203447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-10337923637303036622014-07-23T04:50:59.418-05:002014-07-23T04:50:59.418-05:00"So of course, Marvel turned him into Ginger ..."So of course, Marvel turned him into Ginger Beyonder and used him for a deck-clearing series. Ugh."<br /><br />Yeah but weren't most of the people killed off in that dumb series created just for that series? It's not like they had the balls to kill off X-23 or anyone major.<br /><br />"I've read that Claremont intended to reveal that Rachel had no father, and was simply a child of Jean Grey/the Phoenix force"<br /><br />And she was supposed to be unique in that she doesn't have an alternate reality counterpart. Of course, nobody at What If? was told that...<br /><br />What's up with Kitty being mean to Meggan? I can understand calling Brian a bimbo, but Meggan has been nothing other than nice to Kitty...<br /><br />wwk5dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-62289144088759942772014-07-21T20:43:37.168-05:002014-07-21T20:43:37.168-05:00Why does Kitty assume it's Arcade who's ki...<br>Why does Kitty assume it's Arcade who's kidnapped Courtney? I guess the "damsel in distress" poses on the backs of the bills suggest his schtick, but Kitty only notices those after the finger is pointed — apparently based on the faces of the bills featuring members of the Crazy Gang, whom the X-Men have never seen before and who in any event haven't been working with Arcade until now.<br /><br /><i>// I've read that Claremont intended to reveal that Rachel had no father, and was simply a child of Jean Grey/the Phoenix force //</i><br /><br />Hmm. Never heard that.<br /><br /><i>// the plant which Arcade bought as a front for Murderworld shut down in part because Genosha can manufacture steel cheaper //</i><br /><br />Completely missed <i>that</i>.<br /><br /><i>// We actually see a normal person die in Murderworld for a change //</i><br /><br />Appreciated that. Like the possible Monty Python homage of the poor fellow being stomped by the giant foot. Not sure what the audience of blue demon-like things is supposed to be, though, since there are no other suggestions, if this even is one, that Limbo has spread its reach from NYC to England. <br /><br />One more potential entry for <i>The Reference Section</i>: The joke that Courtney starts off with introduces a vicar and an actress. Most often the pairings I've heard are "tarts and vicars" (as a British costume-party theme) or "said the actress to the bishop" (equivalent to adding "under the covers" or, more recently, "that's what she said" to make something sound naughty, the namesake of Brian Bolland's delightful <i>The Actress and the Bishop</i> strips).<br /><br />Whether it's because I was reading and enjoying it without getting contemporary X-Men comics or because I've always considered it as a Captain Britain series with former X-Men in it rather than an X-Men title — despite the fact that Claremont's writing it and the obvious attempt to bridge or marry both concepts in the name itself — I don't see <i>Excalibur</i> as failing to distinguish an identity within the X-Men franchise because it's just its own thing to me.<br /><br />Although I do like the cover gag, the unwieldy shape of the main word balloon drives me nuts. Of course the joke might be underserved by splitting it up into small adjoining balloons, but I think there's a way to stretch out the width of it for more of an oblong oval and still preserve the overwhelming black of the background.<br /><br>Blamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342343767763035991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-43883563537924758142014-07-20T20:52:12.062-05:002014-07-20T20:52:12.062-05:00Ben: I believe Nightcrawler has at least some hist...Ben: <i>I believe Nightcrawler has at least some history of annoying people with his tickle attacks. Didn't he do this to Rogue in the issue where the X-Men first encounter Magus? It seemed pretty annoying of him then, too.</i><br /><br />... and to Rachel in #201.Teemunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-28619051438543699732014-07-20T20:46:00.290-05:002014-07-20T20:46:00.290-05:00Didn't Arcade capture Courtney Ross already on...Didn't Arcade capture Courtney Ross already once in the Marvel Team-Up issue where he premiered against Spidey and Captain Britain?<br /><br />Anyways... Cross-Time Caper. So, how much does the concept owe to <i>Doctor Who</i> and how much does the television show <i>Sliders</i> owe to Cross-Time Caper? And, does the Slitheens in Doctor Who owe how much to Excalibur's War Wolves, what with being hunting-oriented creatures in habit of wearing human skin as a disguise since the 2005 episode of "<i>Aliens of London</i>"?Teemunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-54823519910591954592014-07-20T08:24:08.936-05:002014-07-20T08:24:08.936-05:00There's a great moment in Avengers Academy tha...There's a great moment in Avengers Academy that does the best at summarizing Murderworld. The kids are trapped there & two reach Arcade's control room, where he tiredly explains that while he's killed lots of ordinary targets, he's never been able to fulfill a contract on a superhero & it drives him crazy. Since we're seeing everything from the superhero POV, all we ever see are his failures. It made perfect sense.<br /><br />So of course, Marvel turned him into Ginger Beyonder and used him for a deck-clearing series. Ugh.Melahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05539894845356203447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-25462021870093251932014-07-18T16:51:02.039-05:002014-07-18T16:51:02.039-05:00@Matt
I believe Nightcrawler has at least some hi...@Matt<br /><br />I believe Nightcrawler has at least some history of annoying people with his tickle attacks. Didn't he do this to Rogue in the issue where the X-Men first encounter Magus? It seemed pretty annoying of him then, too. Bennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-49715159291761689892014-07-18T11:19:30.367-05:002014-07-18T11:19:30.367-05:00Incidentally, the shop that doesn't accept cre...Incidentally, the shop that doesn't accept credit cards is named 'Marx and Sparks', a British nickname for Marks and Spencer, a fairly upmarket chain supermarket/department store hybrid. It's mentioned by this name in 'All the Young Dudes' by Mott the Hoople, in case it sounded familiar to American ears.bigfatheartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-46830083991168911292014-07-18T11:09:15.302-05:002014-07-18T11:09:15.302-05:00I think in my own coverage of this storyline, I no...I think in my own coverage of this storyline, I noted that Brian is kind of a cad next issue as he goes on a date with Courtney while still ostensibly in a committed relationship with Meggan. But I'd forgotten that Nightcrawler isn't much better in this installment. Who makes a tickle attack on their friend/teammate's girlfriend at all, much less while she's wearing a bikini?!?<br /><br />Otherwise, I like this two-parter. As I think about it, it's probably my favorite story arc from Claremont's time on EXCALIBUR.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580725636327122073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-20753077706370045302014-07-17T20:50:08.564-05:002014-07-17T20:50:08.564-05:00"EscapedFromItAfterBeingMildlyInconveniencedw..."EscapedFromItAfterBeingMildlyInconveniencedworld"."<br /><br />I'd like to see it canonically changed, and with the tagline also changed from "... where nobody ever survives!" to " .... where nobody ever escapes without first being mildly inconvenienced!"Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13298753675007196538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-73384484135489119502014-07-17T18:54:33.433-05:002014-07-17T18:54:33.433-05:00It always annoyed me that Claremont never explaine...It always annoyed me that Claremont never explained what the Crazy Gang were in these issues- I assumed they were robots created by Arcade.<br />Here's a problem- several days pass between Rachel hearing Nathan's cries in this issue and Rachel going to rescue him is issue 6. So unless it took Jean and Scott several days to fly from Nebraska to New York, this has to take place before Jean and Scott removed him from the capsule. But if Nathan was constantly screaming for help all the time he was in the capsule, shouldn't Rachel have "heard" him since she first returned to Earth?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com