tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post1661271910061292432..comments2024-03-22T04:20:11.870-05:00Comments on Gentlemen of Leisure: X-amining Gambit & the X-Ternals #4Austin Gortonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-75763975296444392612019-08-31T13:04:48.373-05:002019-08-31T13:04:48.373-05:00No wonder I prefer simpler times, when Claremont, ...<b>No wonder I prefer simpler times, when Claremont, Cockrum, Byrne, Smith, Romita Jr, Silvestri and Lee were involved in the X-Men franchise.</b><br /><br />Yes, the famously safe, apolitical era of X-Men when Nightcrawler was chased by a mob for looking different, Storm visited the ghetto, a glimpse of the future revealed a racist dystopia, a character was revealed to be a Holocaust survivor, an outright condemnation of the religious right was released as a graphic novel, outsiders were driven into the sewers to form their own separate community, two full pages were dedicated to characters visiting the Holocaust Museum, a kid bullied for being different committed suicide in one spinoff book, a racist ad campaign was revealed to be part of a plot to gin up hysteria in another spinoff book, the heroes became de facto terrorist cell working to bring down an apartheid government, and a disembodied telepathic villain was introduced as a literal hate monster.<br /><br />Bruh, do you even READ X-Men?!Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03665503542091489778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-20544115108350387342019-08-29T17:36:33.436-05:002019-08-29T17:36:33.436-05:00“...support of racist, homophobic, misogynistic, e...“...support of racist, homophobic, misogynistic, etc bullsh*t, which is really what people who whine about SJW are really complaining about.”<br /><br />Huh?<br /><br />“Also, you're countries national politics are quite frankly, embarrassing. And sad.”<br /><br />Huh?<br /><br />Notice that I made a brief comment, as a foreigner, of how annoying it is to see present-day Marvel Comics overly fixated in present-day U.S. politics. Just because of this simple comment, I was viciously attacked by a few commentators, who essentially told me to silence myself, one even implying that I’m “racist, homophobic, [and] misogynistic” and speaking awful things about my country, in what can only be seen as a sign of unrestrained intolerance and xenophobia.<br /><br />This is why comics are dying. They let people who are truly intolerant and aggressive take rein and scare average people like me. No wonder I prefer simpler times, when Claremont, Cockrum, Byrne, Smith, Romita Jr, Silvestri and Lee were involved in the X-Men franchise.<br /><br />Licínio Mirandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12545823888354348526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-17162407326318434222019-08-29T13:17:01.859-05:002019-08-29T13:17:01.859-05:00Sorry, your country's, not you're countrie...Sorry, your country's, not you're countries. wwk5dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-55732308641365976852019-08-29T13:15:02.115-05:002019-08-29T13:15:02.115-05:00Forgive us for not wanting to endorse support of r...Forgive us for not wanting to endorse support of racist, homophobic, misogynistic, etc bullsh*t, which is really what people who whine about SJW are really complaining about. But keep playing the victim card, if that's what it take to get you through the day. <br /><br />Also, you're countries national politics are quite frankly, embarrassing. And sad. But hey, like people on the right would say, ef you're feelings, right?<br /><br />"Anyone who read Claremont/Cockrum/Byrne/Smith X-Men"<br /><br />Rarely mentioned is a very skewed look at those stories. And discounting everything that came after those stories? Whatever, focus on a few years of the franchise while disregarding the majority of it.<br />wwk5dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-13022057945788416722019-08-29T08:58:30.155-05:002019-08-29T08:58:30.155-05:00The fact that the ones who criticized me for compl...The fact that the ones who criticized me for complaining about the overly politicization of comics in present day Marvel have used my own country’s national politics to attack me and/or essentially told me to shut up actually proves my points. Thank you all.<br /><br />Anyone who read Claremont/Cockrum/Byrne/Smith X-Men will notice that mutant prejudice and politics is rarely mentioned. Almost all stories (except for very few ones) are about evil mutants, adventures across the globe, space travel, alien or demon attacks, Savage Land, cosmic threats, etc. Licínio Mirandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12545823888354348526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-28972580200106637182019-08-28T22:50:01.970-05:002019-08-28T22:50:01.970-05:00If you’d asked me which title was the AOA version ...<br>If you’d asked me which title was the <i>AOA</i> version of / stand-in for <i>X-Force</i>, I probably would’ve had to match every other series with its (more obvious) equivalent before settling on this one by process of elimination instead of just remembering it.<br /><br />Why is Guido wearing a Cyclops visor?<br /><br>Blamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342343767763035991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-87028501060420896572019-08-28T20:20:30.068-05:002019-08-28T20:20:30.068-05:00I'm already looking forward, Austin. Thanks fo...I'm already looking forward, Austin. Thanks for this blog that I read everyday.Cesar R. Pontualhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06375109987794647615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-24365741753949236122019-08-28T14:48:44.074-05:002019-08-28T14:48:44.074-05:00Hama may have intended that to be here, but, for w...Hama may have intended that to be here, but, for what it's worth, the Marvel Chronology Project doesn't consider Psylocke to appear in "Age of Apocalypse" until the later miniseries. <br /><br />I have no idea why Psylocke was excluded from the event (and haven't come across any creator thoughts on the matter), aside from mild speculation that the creators felt the need to limit the telepaths in the story in order to make it harder to prove Bishop's story (thereby making Magneto believing him more an act of faith/hope). Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-5127286869352054232019-08-28T14:45:15.124-05:002019-08-28T14:45:15.124-05:00I will be covering all the post-"Age of Apoca...I will be covering all the post-"Age of Apocalypse" issues/series set in this reality, though not until we reach the point of their respective publication dates (so when we get to the December '96 books, that's when I'll review TALES FROM THE AGE OF APOCALYPSE). Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-19713397753421451992019-08-28T02:24:52.815-05:002019-08-28T02:24:52.815-05:00It was sold to me as a masculine power fantasy god...It was sold to me as a masculine power fantasy goddamnit!<br /><br />No, but: here's a take from Nov 2016 that makes an intriguing counterpoint:<br /><br /><i>One of the enduring issues with American superhero stories is figuring out how to deal with the fact that superhero stories aren’t especially democratic. They’re actually kind of, well, fascist. As the Mary Sue pointed out:<br /><br />Superhero narratives are politically fascist. That’s not really a criticism, it’s just a statement of fact. Integral elements of the genre, such as the nearly unlimited power and authority superheroes are handed with little to no oversight, are inherently authoritarian concepts.<br /><br />The superhero fantasy, in which a single person with enormous power takes on responsibility for all us weak mortals and fixes everything, is also a fantasy of fascist authoritarianism. And sure, a fundamental part of the superhero fantasy is that the superhero is too moral to abuse his power — but when fascism is selling itself, it promises never to abuse its power either. That’s part of the appeal.</i><br /><br />https://www.vox.com/culture/2016/11/8/13563500/joss-whedon-donald-trump-fascist-fantasy-lone-superheroTeemunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-78442432697119333452019-08-27T16:27:10.199-05:002019-08-27T16:27:10.199-05:00Ahh, I see now how Brazil got its president and th...Ahh, I see now how Brazil got its president and the Amazon is on fire.<br /><br />Anyone who doesn't get that superheroes are by nature social justice warriors amuses the hell out of me.Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00605826105741513741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-52254925558053207502019-08-27T04:07:27.093-05:002019-08-27T04:07:27.093-05:00If Age of Apocalypse was remade in the 70s, SJW Ma...If Age of Apocalypse was remade in the 70s, SJW Marvel wouldn't ruin it by making an allegory for Nixon and his corrupt Administration.<br />If AOA was remade in the 60s, SJW Marvel would ruin it by making an allegory for the Vietnam War.<br />If SJW Marvel remade AOA in the 1950s it would make it an allegory for the McCarthy Administration or nuclear annihilation.<br />If SJW Marvel remade AOA in the 1940s, they would ruin it by making it an allegory for the Holocaust, Japanese internment, or or maybe even refer to Nazis by having the heroes punch them out on the cover.<br /><br />It's as if super heroes have been social justice Warriors since June 1938 or something. It's also as if the X-Men have been an allegory for prejudice against minorities since their first appearance.Mike-ELhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02840254150021796923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-54831866324875214052019-08-27T04:05:32.972-05:002019-08-27T04:05:32.972-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Mike-ELhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02840254150021796923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-39427469359411795892019-08-26T23:14:12.993-05:002019-08-26T23:14:12.993-05:00Assuming it's valid to begin with...Assuming it's valid to begin with...wwk5dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-13399460084323654562019-08-26T16:13:21.919-05:002019-08-26T16:13:21.919-05:00I always thought she was a random purple-haired wo...I always thought she was a random purple-haired woman on the double page spread in Weapon X #2.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-39658085681203698862019-08-26T14:19:36.759-05:002019-08-26T14:19:36.759-05:00"Never mind that I honestly don't underst..."Never mind that I honestly don't understand how it's possible for someone to hate progressives"<br />hahah yeah really - how can anyone possibly hate people trying so hard to bully a person for voicing his perfectly valid opinion. malxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04057637691176704317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-47353677601038155432019-08-26T05:58:16.784-05:002019-08-26T05:58:16.784-05:00"P.S.: Age of Apocalypse is a series that sho..."P.S.: Age of Apocalypse is a series that should be remade and improved upon, although present day SJW Marvel would certainly ruin it by turning it into an allegory of Trump’s administration and white people being evil."<br /><br />What the f*** are you even talking about?<br /><br />Never mind that I honestly don't understand how it's possible for someone to hate progressives but like the X-Men -- LITERAL social justice warriors fighting for social justice for a minority group, rather than letting them be slapped with labels that make it easy to ignore their humanity (like "mutie" or "illegals"), or banned from military service, or kept from legal protections for things like being fired for being a mutant, or discriminated against by businesses. Put all of that aside... why even bring it up, in the comments section for a random AoA issue? Save it for the National Review comments section.<br /><br />Besides, Marvel already did their allegory of Trump's administration -- it was called Dark Reign, and the narcissistic, pathologically-lying sociopath got his ass kicked in the end. It was great.Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11195303135115277997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-14141157836978664372019-08-26T05:55:11.499-05:002019-08-26T05:55:11.499-05:00You sound like you voted for Jair Bolsonaro.You sound like you voted for Jair Bolsonaro.wwk5dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-46885123043960468932019-08-26T01:38:25.578-05:002019-08-26T01:38:25.578-05:00Not sure why Psylocke is absent, but there is a ra...Not sure why Psylocke is absent, but there is a random purple-haired woman as part of the Human Council in X-Men Alpha. She only appears on one panel, but maybe this is her?Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02734795370457911188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-23477044885283140602019-08-25T08:53:50.050-05:002019-08-25T08:53:50.050-05:00Although a fairly common trope in fiction, the “ev...Although a fairly common trope in fiction, the “evil ruler/criminal/dictator who kills underlings for failures” is actually a classic recipe in real life for them to be overthrown or murdered.<br /><br />If I’m not mistaken, this comic, Weapon X and X-Caliber were the ones I least cared back in the day, having bought only the first and last issues, and liking neither.<br /><br />Indeed, it’s very odd that Psylocke, who was a huge character in the early 90s, was completely ignored by all creative teams. No one wanted to work with her in the Age of Apocalypse? It’s quite possible that this is why she became less and less important in the years afterward, fading into the background. The appeal she may have had for Jim Lee may not have been the same for the creators who came after him.<br /><br />P.S.: Age of Apocalypse is a series that should be remade and improved upon, although present day SJW Marvel would certainly ruin it by turning it into an allegory of Trump’s administration and white people being evil. I’m Brazilian and I’m tired of all nonsense going on in Marvel in the past 10 years (which could extend to 19 years, if we go back to the core of the problem: the Ultimate line).Licínio Mirandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12545823888354348526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-69489496029064797632019-08-25T02:14:28.187-05:002019-08-25T02:14:28.187-05:00Not related to this particular book, but so strang...Not related to this particular book, but so strange that Psylocke was completely absent from the original event. I know she was added later, but was she even mentioned anywhere in the original?Daniel Lichtenbergnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-51716982273231641682019-08-24T19:10:37.952-05:002019-08-24T19:10:37.952-05:00I would like to read about these issues too.I would like to read about these issues too.Cesar R. Pontualhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06375109987794647615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-34844611155374827962019-08-24T18:34:54.404-05:002019-08-24T18:34:54.404-05:00I second that!I second that!Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02734795370457911188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-69731185040071412712019-08-24T16:38:46.970-05:002019-08-24T16:38:46.970-05:00I hope he does! I had a soft spot for the Corsair-...I hope he does! I had a soft spot for the Corsair-brood story in terms of Cyclops’ development into a good guy in AOA.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08871609743661203353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-30232193809537982062019-08-24T15:26:18.315-05:002019-08-24T15:26:18.315-05:00Are you going to cover the "Tales from the Ag...Are you going to cover the "Tales from the Age of Apocalypse" issues? I never read them, but apparently the two issue series was released in December 1996, one year after the AoA event ended. Might be worth a look. Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02734795370457911188noreply@blogger.com