tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post934502679325788803..comments2024-03-28T10:18:00.370-05:00Comments on Gentlemen of Leisure: X-amining Wolverine #67Austin Gortonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-27346913507930199462017-06-24T16:23:56.989-05:002017-06-24T16:23:56.989-05:00Absolutely no apologies needed. Like always, a dif...Absolutely no apologies needed. Like always, a differing (or any) viewpoint with reasoning and examples is but most welcome, and anyway I myself was speaking from the position of having read the following issue and seeing more similarities between the Reds.<br /><br />If my arm was twisted behind my back and I was forced to guess, the described style with adjective following, when used in English language, comes from the French (Anglo-Norman) side of the development of the language, "court martial" and "attorney general" certainly so. "Eminence grise" would be a prime example of one with a color following. On the other hand, "red" being a word with Germanic root instead, probably should not be expected to be a part of compound word formed in this fashion.<br /><br />I swear I'm not trying to upstage the octopodes. :)Teemunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-433618225966895902017-06-15T22:33:35.341-05:002017-06-15T22:33:35.341-05:00My apologies, though, if my original comment about...<br>My apologies, though, if my original comment about indeed having made the Omega/Epsilon Red connection came off as overly defensive.<br /><br>Blamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342343767763035991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-55489483224405408652017-06-15T22:29:51.349-05:002017-06-15T22:29:51.349-05:00I didn’t say that “Siege Perilous” dated to this e...<br>I didn’t say that “Siege Perilous” dated to this era — just that it was another example of the style, one that often tends (again, to me) to sound oddly formal or clinical in English (see also “court martial” or “attorney general” with their attendant unusual requirement of the first word in the compound taking the pluralization) if not outright archaic (which of course “Siege Perilous” is/was before Claremont borrowed it from Arthurian literature). Nor did I say that “Weapon X” and “Weapon Alpha” did, although I believe their type proliferated after elements of Wolverine's backstory got explored and expanded. Nor am I really interested in defending my previous comments as anything more than freewheelin' spitballin' thoughts on comics. 8^)<br /><br>Blamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342343767763035991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-58573145737774334272017-06-12T02:46:51.686-05:002017-06-12T02:46:51.686-05:00I assume your lumping in the "Siege Perilous&...I assume your lumping in the "Siege Perilous" is a test? :o)<br /><br />It was a valid point about Blacks and X's, though. And I guess it's plausible that with the political happenstances of the era they'd suddenly have a haste to get the Reds out of their system.<br /><br />I feel like picking the nit by reminding that Weapons X and Alpha had already appeared in the late 70's, because the late, great Terry Pratchett certainly was on the same page with you when he once referred to the kind of novels that print the author's name on the cover bigger than the title, which on its part has the name of a Greek letter paired with "Agenga/Directive/Conspiracy". :)<br /><br />May even be that there being a series of "____ Red" programs informed the later reveal that "Weapon _" was a series too, because our actually meeting Epsilon Red in the next issue may turn out to be a percentages-changing experience. Teemunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-80199398305442164382017-06-11T22:50:32.287-05:002017-06-11T22:50:32.287-05:00DC in the ’80s had Red Trinity in Flash, Red Star ...<br>DC in the ’80s had Red Trinity in <i>Flash</i>, Red Star (the renamed Starfire, once the new Starfire had come along) in <i>Teen Titans</i>, and the Rocket Red Brigade in <i>Justice League</i> in addition to the Marvel examples you cited, but really I was joking a bit by lumping it in with the questionable “Black _____” trend and the proliferation of X stuff we’ve recently discussed here, specifically because of confusion over whether and how Team X, Experiment X, and Weapon X were related. <br /><br />This era also had a tendency towards the Robert Ludlum style of “_____ [Agenda/Sanction/Directive/<i>etc.</i>]” storyline titles and, of a piece in my mind anyway, the postmodifier style that gives us names like “Weapon X” and “Omega Red” (not to mention "Siege Perilous"). In the case of Weapon X and Weapon Alpha, the noun is a constant while the modifier changes; in the case of Omega Red and Epsilon Red, it’s the modifier that’s constant. The existence of one-off examples, albeit fewer, is what led to my 60/40-ish split on whether the “_____ Red” characters were meant to be associated or they were just each an isolated part of a trend of pretentious nomenclature.<br /><br />Anyway, I look forward to the introduction of “Weapon X-Factor Omega Flight Red”.<br /><br>Blamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342343767763035991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-57059192176792432102017-06-10T10:13:53.462-05:002017-06-10T10:13:53.462-05:00Yeah but I meant like noting the thang out loud he...Yeah but I meant like noting the thang out loud here. I'm 98%/2% myself on them being program names, but then again I don't think Red really ever was used that much for Soviet operatives. There's Red Guardian, yes, and Red Ghost (though he's private sector I think), but other than that not even the early 60's one-offs were that Red. Dynamo is Crimson and all that. Plus, it's not just (anything) Red here, it's (Greek letter) Red.<br /><br />Would hate to be Gamma Red or Delta Red, though. First would so be a one-off Hulk villain by PAD and I fret to thing what sort of Louisiana-based horribleness they would make of the latter one.Teemunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-67975855367716900452017-06-10T08:47:32.870-05:002017-06-10T08:47:32.870-05:00Speak for yourself. 8^) I made the connection righ...Speak for yourself. 8^) I made the connection right away, roughly 60% wondering just how many “_____ Red” operatives there were but at the same time 40% being afraid that it was lazy editing rather than the establishment of an intentional pattern. “Red” after all was a go-to component of Soviet/Russian codenames on the order of “Black” for characters of African heritage and “X” for any kind of clandestine governmental program or paramilitary operation. Blamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342343767763035991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-60327292841734316522017-06-09T10:29:07.669-05:002017-06-09T10:29:07.669-05:00We all must be pretty damn stupid for failing to n...We all must be pretty damn stupid for failing to note yet that names "Epsilon Red" and "Omega Red" obviously both fall to the same naming theme based on Greek letters, and most likely belong to the same program (or series of) for superpowered Soviet operatives.Teemunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-75789269964950524112017-06-05T09:42:05.744-05:002017-06-05T09:42:05.744-05:00Nice art. Good point about the story faring better...Nice art. Good point about the story faring better with parts of it more grounded in contrast to Wolverine’s hallucinations, too.Blamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342343767763035991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-77696652299293934762017-06-03T03:05:56.288-05:002017-06-03T03:05:56.288-05:00The world today is based on mobility and efficienc...The world today is based on mobility and efficiency, in the realms of both work and play. Even the way people spend their leisure time is increasingly focused on efficiency and shaving time off of unnecessary functions.<a href="http://www.assignmentsynonym.eu/" rel="nofollow">http://www.assignmentsynonym.eu/</a><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00357933460302060158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-17136009129630196542017-06-03T00:00:08.885-05:002017-06-03T00:00:08.885-05:00This is a false memory scenario; you can tell from...This is a false memory scenario; you can tell from those behind it having made the novice mistake of failing to notice that a Soviet/Russian spaceman obviously would be a <i>cosmonaut</i>.Teemunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-545157388317821382017-06-02T17:35:19.330-05:002017-06-02T17:35:19.330-05:00Yeah, I think drowning/suffocation and starvation ...Yeah, I think drowning/suffocation and starvation are the two most likely ways to kill him (though I think with the latter, it would take much longer than with an ordinary person). Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-85050890069242636192017-06-02T17:33:45.238-05:002017-06-02T17:33:45.238-05:00"It's noted that Wolverine's healing ..."It's noted that Wolverine's healing factor can't really do anything about thin air (Wolverine's continued need for oxygen being one of his few significant weaknesses at this point)."<br />I think the point was that Wolverine's healing factor needed SOME protein and water to work with (IOW, he could die of hunger or thirst).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com