tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post9104363271560669600..comments2024-03-28T10:18:00.370-05:00Comments on Gentlemen of Leisure: X-amining Uncanny X-Men #262Austin Gortonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-50294432288113629212016-01-31T14:06:33.094-06:002016-01-31T14:06:33.094-06:00Normally I am one of the last to complain about su...Normally I am one of the last to complain about super-heroines drawn to be sexy, but I am surprised no one commented that Jean's new X-Men uniform has HIGH HEELS!!! Why would an outfit/costume/uniform designed for practicality have high heels?Bedfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02833301170976646038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-56419668589093386042015-05-21T12:02:15.812-05:002015-05-21T12:02:15.812-05:00I like Kieron Dwyer, but I agree with Blam that Ru...I like Kieron Dwyer, but I agree with Blam that Rubinstein is not a good match for him here.<br /><br />Otherwise, I find this storyline to be a waste of the promising Forge/Banshee partnership.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580725636327122073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-74973090568410798322015-05-19T17:55:03.751-05:002015-05-19T17:55:03.751-05:00Given their styles, I’d expect Rubinstein to be a ...<br>Given their styles, I’d expect Rubinstein to be a very simpatico inker for Dwyer. So I’m a little disappointed. I found the Dwyer/Bulanadi art in <i>Captain America</i> #367 wildly uneven — better and worse than this, at different points — whereas Dwyer/Milgrom in <i>X-Factor</i> #47 was well above both.<br /><br>Blamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342343767763035991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-63229511725912298612015-05-17T15:21:01.831-05:002015-05-17T15:21:01.831-05:00I recall if you squinted at the discussion about t...I recall if you squinted at the discussion about the X-Men’s survival between Banshee and Jean, you could see that the dialogue bubble from Banshee about X-Factor being in space may have been re-scripted. I wonder what Claremont had originally written!? "Last we heard, we still thought you were …"?Nathan Adlerhttp://fanfix.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-25701601379705191232015-05-16T02:13:31.605-05:002015-05-16T02:13:31.605-05:00Story named after Bowie's hit song. And we al...Story named after Bowie's hit song. And we all know what that song was about don't we;)Nathan Adlerhttp://fanfix.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-4226068277790740762015-05-15T11:23:50.022-05:002015-05-15T11:23:50.022-05:00That final panel with Jean and Sean freaked the he...That final panel with Jean and Sean freaked the hell out of me as a kid.<br /><br />@wwk5d<br />not if Le Peregrine goes to the Baxter building or Avengers mansion to lecture them about starting international wars !Frenchienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-48299178293221634542015-05-15T00:37:02.766-05:002015-05-15T00:37:02.766-05:00The Forge bit works for me. Yes, it is your cliche...The Forge bit works for me. Yes, it is your clicheic 'Nam story about someone who left his "leg and little bit something else too" (or how did Wolverine put it?) there, and there's not anything we <i>needed</i> to see or didn't already know, but then again it's obviously meant to be read like a Greek tragedy from the get-go where the reader already knows it will inevitably end up to Forge using the souls of his fallen comrades to open up the demon portal.<br /><br />It's a bit of X-lore. On Forge's first outing we saw then-incomprehensible holograms of demons in Vietnam war jungles, and the meaning of them and the history was opened only during Fall of the Mutants. It may not strictly need a revisitation, but I can appreciate if it happens like this.<br /><br />Harry Malone popping up there though... well, you know my feels about hitherto-unknown gruffy military types suddenly having a back-history with the established X-cast.Teemunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-87125241492793490862015-05-14T21:50:59.621-05:002015-05-14T21:50:59.621-05:00@wwk5d
In one of the next couple issues I think V...@wwk5d<br /><br />In one of the next couple issues I think Val clarifies that it's not necessarily a worry that the US or its super teams would lose, but rather that a conflict including super powered beings could be very destructive. Of course, there is also a need to build up the next big villain.<br /><br />I really like the Genosha bit. The rest of this issue is lackluster at best. The get to know Forge stuff would be decent if we hadn't already seen the same Vietnam angst. Issue 264 does a much better job of highlighting the character I would say.Zephyrnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-5539217327756912912015-05-14T20:10:00.765-05:002015-05-14T20:10:00.765-05:00Claremont, step AWAY from the anime!Claremont, step AWAY from the anime!Jon Dubyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11783906806644566810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-67800905388404046312015-05-14T00:36:27.973-05:002015-05-14T00:36:27.973-05:00"she's had her arms replaced by a mass of..."she's had her arms replaced by a mass of tentacles"<br /><br />Hentai tentacles. Almost a Claremontism. A very minor one, I guess. <br /><br />"In a clever bit, Jean defends the X-Men's ruse shortly after Banshee and Forge ask her to keep their continued survival a secret, saying the X-Men did the same thing for the same reasons."<br /><br />I love how even after that Banshee is still throwing a fit, and Forge is telling him to chill out, since at least Forge seems to get how it is a bit hypocritical of them to complain about the X-men's actions.<br /><br />"wonder if the Genoshans are trying to start a war"<br /><br />Were they really worried the Genoshans would win? I know Genosha is advanced by Marvel Universe standards and has mutates, but the US is much much larger, and, Avengers, Fantastic Four, and pretty much full of other spandex people who would probably fight for the US.<br /><br />"His work is probably the high point of this next batch of issues."<br /><br />He isn't the flashiest artist, but he does have a couple of nice touches here and there (like Jean using her TK with the hand mirror, towel, and comb while getting changed).<br /><br />"More commentary on the new X-uniforms, including Banshee's now-familiar cracks about modesty, despite, as we've mentioned, the uniforms not seeming all that different from anything else he's worn."<br /><br />Maybe it was a crack from CC alluding to how the costumes were starting to be drawn at that point? The artists, not just the Image people, seem to be drawing the bodies of the characters with much more detail and definition. The musculature is much more apparent where they look like their costumes are painted on...while in the past, certain artists made them look more like costumes. Does that make sense?<br /><br />"Then again the same thing happened to the title between the end of Byrne's run and the second Cockrum run and again between JRjr and Silvestri"<br /><br />It wasn't that long of a stretch between Byrne and Cockrum (one issue by Brent Anderson). And while the period between JRjr and Silvestri was longer, you had a much higher caliber of artists doing the fill-ins (Alan Davis, Barry Windsor Smith, Rick Leonardi, Jackson Guice). I'm surprised Marvel couldn't someone more prolific to fill-in.<br /><br />"the entire X-Office feels like it's in a state of flux and somewhat directionless until Lee takes over the art chores on Uncanny X-Men and the Hama-Silvestri run on Wolverine commences"<br /><br />The art stabilizes, but the BTS drama will still leave a mark on the narrative of some of the titles...<br /><br />This era is interesting. Not the best, but interesting. The Morlock issues are ok, but the issue with Charlotte Jones I do remember liking. And then...Gambit!<br /><br /><br />wwk5dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-11873999472068718512015-05-13T17:53:54.800-05:002015-05-13T17:53:54.800-05:00Just to add to my comment, Wolverine was also doub...Just to add to my comment, Wolverine was also double shipping that summer. Was Harras just burning inventory stories to give Hama and Silvestri a chance to get ahead on the book? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-83396087313890683212015-05-13T17:51:53.823-05:002015-05-13T17:51:53.823-05:00This run of issues feels like the nadir of Claremo...This run of issues feels like the nadir of Claremont's run, and, as you mentioned in your review, the revolving door of subpar artists doesn't help. It seems odd that such a high profile and best selling book like Uncanny would flounder in the art department for so long. Then again the same thing happened to the title between the end of Byrne's run and the second Cockrum run and again between JRjr and Silvestri, but this period seems egregiously poor. If I'm not mistaken most of this present period of fill-in artists fell during the summer months when the book was double shipping. Leonardi had been the go to guy in the past, but I guess he was busy working on True Friends at the time? Oddly enough we also had the Silvestri fill-in on X-Factor and he'll also wind up becoming the regular artist on Wolverine following that title's string of fill-ins (and the forgetable Lazarus Project 4-parter), although I guess Jo Duffy is as close to a regular writer as Wolverine will have until Hama comes aboard. <br /><br />Aside from Simonson-Liefeld on New Mutants, the entire X-Office feels like it's in a state of flux and somewhat directionless until Lee takes over the art chores on Uncanny X-Men and the Hama-Silvestri run on Wolverine commences. At the time I hated Bogdanove's work on X-Factor which was also just about to get started and would take the book through the X-Tinction Agenda crossover. If I'm not mistaken Portacio fills in on Uncanny the issue before Lee takes over, but was his Punisher gig still ongoing? Was that what kept him from doing more work for the X-Office at the time?<br /><br />Weird times. Did they just want some journey en freelance artists to share in some of the royalties of the company's best selling books? Was the double shipping scheduling crunch a factor in who was available? Or was Harras unable to get his shit together for some reason? Love to know what was going on behind the scenes during this period.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-43375135789100822142015-05-13T15:34:15.253-05:002015-05-13T15:34:15.253-05:00@Teemu: Must I point you to X-Treme X-Men Annual 2...@Teemu: Must I point you to X-Treme X-Men Annual 2001!<br /><br />I'm wondering where on the comments I should drop my bombshell theory that Lila Cheney is the daughter of Callisto too;)<br /><br />And yes here we start to learn that Forge's Vietnam unit were dubbed the Marauders. Odd to reveal that in a story where he is similarly in Morlock territory!?Nathan Adlerhttp://fanfix.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-69716300421760334732015-05-13T14:44:20.794-05:002015-05-13T14:44:20.794-05:00In Soho, Peter Nicholas spots the model who has be...<i>In Soho, Peter Nicholas spots the model who has been haunting him outside his gallery</i><br /><br />You know, I did make a joke about me at some point probably losing Friends and going for Sex in the City as my NY-go-to reference fiction, but come ON, it was a joke! I certainly needed no "trendoid glitterati" going at the gallery openings of the hottest new painter on my UNCANNY!<br /><br /><i>The Reavers are shown attacking a business owned by the White Queen, which is, I believe, just part of Pierce's larger "get revenge on the Inner Circle" goals.</i><br /><br />... and certainly nothing to do with Shadow King, Nathan, you hear us? ;)<br /><br />So, yeah. First of the three issues set they didn't publish for us back in the day. Subpar arts, they said. Though now I'm suspecting a part might have been because they knew they'll skip X-Tinction Agenda too, and felt the subplot developments here were unneeded for us. I can't hate it, it's a piece of semi-secret unread Claremont for me. Once more I'm treated with a back issue treat of my back issue hunt era kind. Forge's totally my favorite Vietnam vet of the 80's.Teemunoreply@blogger.com