tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post6928030432739716685..comments2024-03-28T10:18:00.370-05:00Comments on Gentlemen of Leisure: X-amining X-Men #108Austin Gortonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-91912152705341686152012-12-10T14:38:56.606-06:002012-12-10T14:38:56.606-06:00@Teebore:That's when you'd get stuff like ...@Teebore:<i>That's when you'd get stuff like this, or having snowstorms pop up in a bunch of different titles because the Casket of Ancient Winters had been opened over in Thor's book. Not full fledged crossovers, but little acknowledgements of the shared universe when something big enough to affect everyone happened. </i><br /><br />That there is <b>exactly</b> what more comic books should do these days - I loved the little nods like that.<br /><br /><i>By the times the books swelled in the 90s and everything got fragmented into their own little line, you'd get acknowledgements of stuff like this within a line (like all the X-books, or the Midnight Sons books, etc) but rarely across into other lines.<br /></i><br /><br />Urgh, and that's one of the things I hate about events these days - they're never referenced outside of tie-ins. But then again, if the alternative is forcing literally every book to become a tie-in...<br /><br />Sigh. Sometimes comic books really frustrate me. Harry Sewalskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11886168494924203493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-55947862219565907882012-12-10T10:14:34.128-06:002012-12-10T10:14:34.128-06:00@Harry: These days I feel that since most teams ar...@Harry: <i>These days I feel that since most teams are much closer, it happens a lot less, although that doesn't mean that it doesn't happen at all. </i><br /><br />I actually feel like the Golden Age of this kind of thing actually was the Bronze Age (see what I did there?), basically the late 70s and into the 80s. <br /><br />That's when you'd get stuff like this, or having snowstorms pop up in a bunch of different titles because the Casket of Ancient Winters had been opened over in Thor's book. Not full fledged crossovers, but little acknowledgements of the shared universe when something big enough to affect everyone happened. <br /><br />By the times the books swelled in the 90s and everything got fragmented into their own little line, you'd get acknowledgements of stuff like this within a line (like all the X-books, or the Midnight Sons books, etc) but rarely across into other lines. <br /><br />Nowadays, it just seems to happen on the whim of a writer. Some writers like to do it, some can't be bothered, and the power of the editor is so neutered they can't force it. <br /><br />Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-22582072322245476142012-12-08T00:04:01.593-06:002012-12-08T00:04:01.593-06:00Guardians of the M'Kraan Crystal Jahf and Modt...<i>Guardians of the M'Kraan Crystal Jahf and Modt also appear for the first time; the former will pop up again years down the road.</i><br /><br />I quite liked that in AoA Jahf reappeared and referenced this arc; it really made the M'Kraan Crystal feel important to the multiverse, and it was a nice continuity nod. I love minor characters reappearing years later, it really makes them feel like they exist in the universe, as opposed to just appearing for the sake of a single story. One of the many reasons I love Busiek's work.<br /><br />On that note, I like that Claremont showed the Avengers and FF reacting to the crisis - too often in the Silver/Bronze Age would something happen which you'd think would attract a lot of attention, yet only one team/character would respond to it. These days I feel that since most teams are much closer, it happens a lot less, although that doesn't mean that it doesn't happen at all.Harry Sewalskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11886168494924203493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-74833984445749899082011-10-11T08:27:05.536-05:002011-10-11T08:27:05.536-05:00Byrne!!! Austin!!!
I love "I'm not dead ...<br>Byrne!!! Austin!!!<br /><br />I love "I'm not dead -- Dave Cockrum."<br /><br />And I'll leave it at that, since there's so many more of these to get to... 8^)<br /><br>Blamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342343767763035991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-56487812235300630942011-05-17T17:30:53.725-05:002011-05-17T17:30:53.725-05:00@Anne: i had this whole comment worked out yesterd...@Anne: <i>i had this whole comment worked out yesterday but i couldn't post it, and now i can't remember everything i wanted to say!</i><br /><br />Yeah, Blogger was massively effed up for a couple of days there. <br /><br /><i>oh, i was thinking about making a 'Hank beats his wife' joke, but it seemed too easy </i><br /><br />It is like fish in a barrel...<br /><br /><i>i'm trying to decide if Logan's healing factor would actually be able to keep him alive in space or not... i haven't decided </i><br /><br />It's a tough call. Nowadays, his healing factor can do just about anything. Back then, it was much more limited (he healed faster than most, but it wasn't exactly instantaneous). <br /><br />But we don't know about this planet's gravity/density relative to Earth's, etc. <br /><br />I suppose it's not the most unbelievable thing, especially if you assume Waldo got to him fast.Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-33058022570405402652011-05-14T08:32:52.938-05:002011-05-14T08:32:52.938-05:00god damn blogger! i had this whole comment worked...god damn blogger! i had this whole comment worked out yesterday but i couldn't post it, and now i can't remember everything i wanted to say!<br /><br />let's see<br /><br />oh, i was thinking about making a 'Hank beats his wife' joke, but it seemed too easy<br /><br />i'm trying to decide if Logan's healing factor would actually be able to keep him alive in space or not... i haven't decided<br /><br />is that lumberjack selling pizzazz?! sign me up!<br /><br />i KNOW i had one more point to make, but i think it's gone forever. you owe me one awesome comment, blogger (because i can't remember what it is, i can just assume it was going to be awesome)Anne Ahiershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04695186823472404436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-62336759064993548262011-05-11T17:18:17.017-05:002011-05-11T17:18:17.017-05:00@Matt: Personally I can't wait for issue #175&...@Matt: <i>Personally I can't wait for issue #175's entry... Only 67 weeks to go!</i><br /><br />Me too! That's one of my favorite single issues, period, if not my absolute favorite. <br /><br />Unfortunately as the book gets better, the goofy quotient goes down, and stuff like "Awesome and Terrible Power of Cyclops" and "That 70s Comic" suffer. But I do my best to find that stuff when I can. <br /><br /><i>In fact, I'd love to see a collected edition of nothing but Claremont plots.</i><br /><br />Me too! <br /><br /><i>I get the impression that Byrne is actually (gasp) telling the truth when he describes a 15-page plot for a 17-page story. </i><br /><br />Yeah, I have to think Byrne is telling the truth about that as well. I try to take most of what he says, especially after the fact, with a grain of salt (which is true of most sources, but especially Byrne) but that certainly gels with other things I've read/heard about Claremont. <br /><br />I mean, it's clear the man loves words (which I don't say as a bad thing)...Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-76563255274769649942011-05-11T16:05:54.142-05:002011-05-11T16:05:54.142-05:00Finally! We haven't seen an "Awesome and...Finally! We haven't seen an "Awesome and Terrible Power of Cyclops" in quite a while! I knew they'd become less frequent around this time anyway, but it's still good to see one now and then. Personally I can't wait for issue #175's entry... Only 67 weeks to go!<br /><br />Anyway, I've always thought, even since age 13 or whenever I first read this, that the prose description of the "Tree of Life" was a little odd in this issue. I can't help but wonder if it was described somewhere in Claremont's "15-page plot", but Byrne chose not to draw it, so Claremont just wrote it in anyway. The way these two worked seems very similar to what you hear about Lee and Kirby, where Jack would draw what he wanted to happen, and Stan would script what <i>he</i> wanted to happen, regardless of whether they matched up!<br /><br />In fact, I'd love to see a collected edition of nothing but Claremont plots. Having seen pages from them here and there, I get the impression that Byrne is actually (gasp) telling the truth when he describes a 15-page plot for a 17-page story. It'd be very interesting to see how much of what Claremont came up with never made it to the illustration phase. I know that Claremont and Byrne did most of their plotting over the phone, but I'm sure he probably wrote plots out for most of his other collaborators. I get the impression that after Byrne, he was a bit more controlling with that sort of thing.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580725636327122073noreply@blogger.com