tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post6587349210601825022..comments2024-03-28T10:18:00.370-05:00Comments on Gentlemen of Leisure: X-amining New Mutants #27Austin Gortonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-67306336813767146882016-09-20T18:15:18.563-05:002016-09-20T18:15:18.563-05:00For me, BS's art is sublime in the Demon Bear ...For me, BS's art is sublime in the Demon Bear arc but it gets worse and worse as he goes. There are panels or pages here and there but otherwise I find his work on this arc very hit or miss and way too muddy.<br /><br />Funnily enough, I think his work is one of the few that looks way better on the original cheap paper than better paper or digital.DBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04094596928780098392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-79834059140344182152013-11-14T11:24:51.049-06:002013-11-14T11:24:51.049-06:00"but I've always liked the closing panel ..."but I've always liked the closing panel of this issue, featuring Xavier against a stark white background, defined by the knife he's taken from Jack Wayne representing his agreement to try and kill the Arab."<br /><br />If only Wolverine was around. I'm sure he would have said "Hardcore, Chuck". wwk5dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-89140629911088048312013-04-22T10:28:09.469-05:002013-04-22T10:28:09.469-05:00@Matt: Sooo... did Banshee and Madrox just sleep t...@Matt: <i>Sooo... did Banshee and Madrox just sleep through the explosion or something?</i><br /><br />Madrox (or one of his dupes, at least) is actually hanging around in this issue (he's seen with Warlock after everyone else gets sucked into Legion's mind). Banshee, however, is nowhere to be found. I assume he's sleeping off a bender. :)<br /><br />@Dan: <i>So she never had an official codename up to this point? And she had no reaction to Xavier calling her "Mirage" or anything else? And "Chief"? Wouldn't that kind of make her angry?</i><br /><br />Technically, her official codename up to this point was "Psyche", which is what she was given in the first issue, though it hasn't been used for many issues prior to this one (not that many of the characters' codenames get used all that often, in part because they're still ostensibly not superheroes and in part because Claremont seems to prefer real names anyway). <br /><br />The lack of reaction to being called "Mirage" is odd; I guess we can assume she or Xavier bestowed it upon her at some point behind the scenes, prior to this issue, though Xavier's use of it is odd in and of itself (it isn't like he's calling Doug "Cypher" throughout this story).<br /><br />As for "Chief", yeah. A case can be made that it's a reference to her position as the leader of the team, such as it is (if Cyclops were nicknamed chief, that would be why and we'd think nothing of it), but it definitely doesn't help that it's being used on a Native American character, and seems odd that Dani herself wouldn't comment on that. <br /><br /><i>Does she have a codename today?</i><br /><br />I'm pretty sure it's just "Moonstar", which, like you, I tend to associate with her time posing as a member of the MLF and also consider to be fairly lame because it's, you know, just her name...Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-56301799435990611442013-04-16T21:14:44.622-05:002013-04-16T21:14:44.622-05:00I can sort of understand proper nicknames that don...I can sort of understand proper nicknames that don't stick (happens in real life but most people are quick to shoot them down if they don't like them), but this codename thing for Dani is baffling. So she never had an official codename up to this point? And she had no reaction to Xavier calling her "Mirage" or anything else? And "Chief"? Wouldn't that kind of make her angry?<br /><br />Does she have a codename today? I remember the "Moonstar" thing during X-Force and her involvement in MLF, but I always associated that name with her villain identity. It's so strange that her and Kitty went through dozens of stupid names only to land right back on their proper names after all these years. I suppose their names are unique enough to get away with it, but how hard is to to editorially mandate a codename? "I don't care if you hate it, this is what she's called because toys and movies."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-86824551369943689772013-04-16T13:59:36.067-05:002013-04-16T13:59:36.067-05:00Sooo... did Banshee and Madrox just sleep through ...Sooo... did Banshee and Madrox just sleep through the explosion or something?<br /><br /><br />Teebore -- "<b>Now I'm imagining a panel of Dani giving Doug a "you didn't just say that, did you?" look.</b>"<br /><br />If only this comic was written by Bendis, we would've had a whole nine-panel page filled with reaction shots devoted to that one joke...Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580725636327122073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-53346833089534933532013-04-13T11:40:04.267-05:002013-04-13T11:40:04.267-05:00@Mike: I've heard that some criticize Sienkie...@Mike: <i> I've heard that some criticize Sienkiewicz for his panel-to-panel continuity ( including the great Alex Toth), and I can see the basis for such claims.</i><br /><br />As can I, though I do have to say that re-reading these issues now, I was surprised at how little a problem the panel-to-panel continuity was a problem compared to what I remembered it being. Maybe it's just a function of my having read a ton more comics and gained a better understanding of how art works on the page since the last time I read them. <br /><br /><i>In my mind, his work pushes what comics can be and shows a differing style in which words and pictures interact. </i><br /><br />Agreed. Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-86475406353065242242013-04-13T11:35:25.475-05:002013-04-13T11:35:25.475-05:00The unreal cityscapes in this issue are my favorit...The unreal cityscapes in this issue are my favorite things about the comic. As you noted, Sienkiewicz is in his element here. He does fine with more realistic settings, but it's when reality goes awry that he kills it.<br /><br />Sienkiewicz is also at his best when he has an arresting image to draw. It's telling that his creator-owned Stray Toasters is filled with single-image pages. I've heard that some criticize Sienkiewicz for his panel-to-panel continuity ( including the great Alex Toth), and I can see the basis for such claims. In my mind, his work pushes what comics can be and shows a differing style in which words and pictures interact. <br /><br />- Mike LoughlinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-27078381345507142862013-04-13T10:53:22.859-05:002013-04-13T10:53:22.859-05:00@Jeff: This era of Uncanny up until the Mutant Mas...@Jeff: <i>This era of Uncanny up until the Mutant Massacre is just too scattershot for me--and outside of the post-Inferno, pre-Jim Lee era--is probably my least favorite era of Claremont's run. </i><br /><br />Obviously, I disagree (the scattershot nature of this era, with plot threads pinging back and forth between <i>Uncanny</i> and <i>New Mutants</i>, is one of the things I love about it). Agreed on the post-Inferno, pre-Lee era though, which is hands down my least favorite era of Claremont's run. <br /><br />What separates it from this stuff, for me, is the better, more consistent art from Romita Jr. and the fact that, as scattershot as it is, the X-Men are still the X-Men and there aren't as many meandering "no team" issues and stories. <br /><br />@Blam: <i>Did we not mention the new logo last week?</i><br /><br />D'oh! We did not. Somehow I managed to catch the price change, but not that...<br /><br /><i>On Pg. 4, Professor X refers to Dani as "Mirage" for what I think is the first time, as they prepare to enter the astral plane</i><br /><br />I had that in notes as "first Mirage?" and meant to try and confirm whether that was the first time it was said, or just the first time in a long time, then ran out of time. <br /><br />If you're thinking the same thing, it's probably true. <br /><br /><i>... including right before he utters the apparently unironic line "General Custer would've loved you!"</i><br /><br />Ha! I totally breezed right past that. Now I'm imagining a panel of Dani giving Doug a "you didn't just say that, did you?" look. <br /><br /><i>Nice take on Sienkiewicz's art!</i><br /><br />Thanks! Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-81228584796566612622013-04-12T07:13:43.536-05:002013-04-12T07:13:43.536-05:00Did we not mention the new logo last week?
On Pg....<br>Did we not mention the new logo last week?<br /><br />On Pg. 4, Professor X refers to Dani as "Mirage" for what I think is the first time, as they prepare to enter the astral plane. Her "Psyche" alias barely registered, apparently. Also, like you say...<br /><br /><i>Dani is once again called "Chief" by Doug throughout.</i><br /><br />... including right before he utters the apparently unironic line "General Custer would've <i>loved</i> you!"<br /><br />Nice take on Sienkiewicz's art!<br /><br>Blamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342343767763035991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-31804791420320229332013-04-12T02:21:55.447-05:002013-04-12T02:21:55.447-05:00This month's issues of Uncanny and New Mutants...This month's issues of Uncanny and New Mutants feel like they should be switched. The Magus storyline definitely feels like it belongs in New Mutants, while Professor X discovering he has a son really seems important enough to be in the flagship title. Next month's Uncanny is a big fight with the Hellions, which just reinforces that for me.<br /><br />This era of Uncanny up until the Mutant Massacre is just too scattershot for me--and outside of the post-Inferno, pre-Jim Lee era--is probably my least favorite era of Claremont's run. Uncanny 200 is pretty great, though.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14447265712189987074noreply@blogger.com