tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post6157193726488752245..comments2024-03-22T04:20:11.870-05:00Comments on Gentlemen of Leisure: X-amining Cable #18Austin Gortonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-4168922249299006252019-02-12T09:04:32.772-06:002019-02-12T09:04:32.772-06:00even though Alexandria is not Cairo her level of e...<i> even though Alexandria is not Cairo her level of emotion in that story over returning to her old haunts suggests, at least per my reading of it, that she hasn’t been back to Egypt in general for some time.</i><br /><br />Yeah, X-MEN UNLIMITED #7 definitely reads better if it takes place before this story. I'm just going off the work of others in terms of the chronology (the Official Marvel Index, the MCP), so I assume there's a reason the stories are in the order they are, though I can't think of anything in either that directly makes the case for the placement of one before or after the other. Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-66520580714677479842019-02-12T09:01:55.237-06:002019-02-12T09:01:55.237-06:00I never understood why Caliban suddenly became stu...<i>I never understood why Caliban suddenly became stupid in this book and even more in X-Force when his last few appearances in X-Factor before the issue 71 reboot he wasn't this dumb.</i><br /><br />I think (at this point) it's less that he's stupid and more that he's returning to his more child-like/innocent state. He spoke in third person, using nicknames, right up until he threw in with Apocalypse during "Fall of Mutants" (when he joins Apocalypse in X-FACTOR #25, he very pointedly starts to refer to himself in the third person before correcting himself). So assuming Loeb is even thinking about this (and not just more familiar with the pre-evil Caliban than the more recent iteration), he could be consciously trying to equate "third-person, nickname-using" Caliban with good, and the more erudite version with bad (of course, Loeb eventually will write Caliban as more overtly childlike, but I think it's a more gradual thing and he's not at that point yet). <br /><br /><i>Cable looks like he is de-aged in this issue and he’s younger than Tyler.</i><br /><br />He does look a little younger here, but I seem to recall Ian Churchill (who takes over shortly) gives him an appropriately grizzled air. <br /><br />Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-24227515808716500172019-02-12T08:43:25.106-06:002019-02-12T08:43:25.106-06:00And we were spared the scene of Storm returning to...And we were spared the scene of Storm returning to the US with Cable and Domino, then turning right around and flying back to Egypt with Jean and Gambit.<br /><br />wwk5dAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-7661614803488791402019-02-11T14:16:41.490-06:002019-02-11T14:16:41.490-06:00// Storm appears in this story … before her trip t...<br><i>// Storm appears in this story … before her trip to Egypt in </i>X-Men Unlimited<i> #7. //</i><br /><br />I was afraid of that, since there’s no reference here to a recent visit, but even though Alexandria is not Cairo her level of emotion in that story over returning to her old haunts suggests, at least per my reading of it, that she hasn’t been back to Egypt in general for some time. Oh well... Minor continuity blemish, really, in the scheme of things.<br /><br>Blamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342343767763035991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-16252575845868024732019-02-11T01:55:27.686-06:002019-02-11T01:55:27.686-06:00Thank you for the disturbing mental image of a bun...Thank you for the disturbing mental image of a bunch of Minions trying to re-adamantium Wolverine.Teemunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-28797421161788422162019-02-10T23:06:54.723-06:002019-02-10T23:06:54.723-06:00I always loved when we got issues with villain gro...I always loved when we got issues with villain groups, the Dark Riders were one of my favorite and I liked that their membership constantly was changing because they were killing each other off. I never understood why Caliban suddenly became stupid in this book and even more in X-Force when his last few appearances in X-Factor before the issue 71 reboot he wasn't this dumb.<br /><br />Cable looks like he is de-aged in this issue and he’s younger than Tyler. Besides the white hair, he’s easily in his late 20’s/early 30’s when he’s been shown mostly as a 50+ year old man and this continues his de-aged look for some time. I really enjoyed the art on the book around this period but he’s been de-aged, almost like the younger Cable running around in today’s X-books. <br /><br />Tyler being back always felt strange, he’s Cable’s adopted son and we didn’t have much back story as far as how long Cable had raised him (or did he, sketchy memory on this part as I didn't care much at the time and I'm not sure I do much now, it's one of those less important continuity details). Didn’t he also have a tie to Zero and that the Zero unit worked for him after Stryfe died and his programming changed after Toliver died, but he didn’t really die, it’s shown he’s still alive here. Am I off on this, I know I might be remembering things incorrectly here. But with he Deadpool mini and then Excalibur with Zero and then Douglock, it feels all tied together while Tyler/Tolliver is just getting the Dark Riders to follow him. Why not bring back Deadpool who's much more effective working for him. Did the DR start working for him after they offered their services to Sinister in X-Men 23? I believe that was the last time we saw them before this issue. They almost feel like the Minions looking for the most evil person and then working for them when they find him but completely inept on their own. Scott Churchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16795112175606617848noreply@blogger.com