tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post3937409959281284864..comments2024-03-22T04:20:11.870-05:00Comments on Gentlemen of Leisure: X-amining Uncanny X-Men #319Austin Gortonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-36767910828999413242019-02-01T22:31:14.697-06:002019-02-01T22:31:14.697-06:00This issue always read like a coming out story to ...This issue always read like a coming out story to me. Back to back with Bobby confronting Emma last issue, and I was absolutely convinced Bobby was gay.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03665503542091489778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-38777589704695110072019-01-24T12:08:16.501-06:002019-01-24T12:08:16.501-06:00It's only a temp change - the logo is back to ...It's only a temp change - the logo is back to normal next issue - presumably so as not to crowd/disrupt Epting's cover art. I believe it's done in the style of the X-MEN UNLIMITED logo. Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-39091505507440101502019-01-24T12:07:34.776-06:002019-01-24T12:07:34.776-06:00I've had to grapple with similar realizations ...I've had to grapple with similar realizations of late (with only parent, thankfully), so the Iceman stuff in this issue definitely resonated with me now in a way it didn't when I first read it. Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-51273803098709479162019-01-24T12:06:42.634-06:002019-01-24T12:06:42.634-06:00That's a good point/question. I know New Yorke...That's a good point/question. I know New Yorkers often skip it, but Bobby is from Long Island (I think?), so you'd have to assume he got his license. Then again, maybe he was too busy chucking snowballs at Magneto when he was 16 to do it. <br /><br /><i>Also, I feel like Bobby shouldn’t be quite so surprised by his dad’s bigotry, unless I misremember that he’s both expressed shame over Bobby’s mutant nature and made derogatory comments about Opal before.</i><br /><br />I'd thought that too - this is the first time he's explicitly called out on being a bigot, but it's hardly the first time he's made statements that would lead one to think it about him. Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-4514446382006637212019-01-24T12:04:44.239-06:002019-01-24T12:04:44.239-06:00No-Prize solution: the majority of his money was i...<i>No-Prize solution: the majority of his money was in a trust that Hodge couldn't touch, but neither could Warren until he was, say, 30</i><br /><br />I'm not even sure it's that complicated - Hodge was given control of Worthington Enterprises, and while a fair amount of Warren's personal capital was tied up in it, it's not like Hodge had access to his personal bank account/assets, which, thanks to his parents, was large/extensive. Presumably, it's those later funds he's referencing here, even though the company itself was bled dry by Hodge. <br /><br />At least, I don't think that approach directly contradict's anything from Simonson's run. Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-91880382402985808362019-01-24T11:44:06.777-06:002019-01-24T11:44:06.777-06:00Looks like this is the first issue where they chan...Looks like this is the first issue where they changed the style of the "X-Men" logo for the first time since what, the Silver Age?ACChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14292052126532011526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-6609668339965883492019-01-24T09:55:49.875-06:002019-01-24T09:55:49.875-06:00"This leads Iceman to grapple with the fact t..."This leads Iceman to grapple with the fact that he always thought he learned his more heroic tendencies from his parents, but now he’s not so sure."<br /><br />Reminds me of realizing that I learned not to be a hateful person like my parents are (they're very much in the same vein as Mr. Drake here) but rather from X-Men & Muppets.Melahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05539894845356203447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-8394535207544283412019-01-23T15:23:49.614-06:002019-01-23T15:23:49.614-06:00// a somewhat random pairing //
Yeah, I thought s...<br><i>// a somewhat random pairing //</i><br /><br />Yeah, I thought so. Although had I read this issue when it came out, not to mention the further time together that you mention is coming, Bobby and Rogue being paired romantically in the early <i>X-Men</i> films might not have seemed quite so strange to me — despite them being portrayed purely as platonic friends and teammates here, give or take what you could infer from his anger over how Gambit treats her if you want. On the other hand, reading it now, I can easily find resonance with the recent developments in his sexual orientation even if there was no intention on Lobdell’s part to shade things that way.<br /><br />Does Bobby not have his driver’s license, by the way? He thanks Rogue not for coming along as moral support but literally for offering to drive him home for the weekend.<br /><br />Also, I feel like Bobby shouldn’t be quite so surprised by his dad’s bigotry, unless I misremember that he’s both expressed shame over Bobby’s mutant nature and made derogatory comments about Opal before.<br /><br />There are some spots of rough narrative flow here— in particular at the bottom of Pg. 4, with Bobby talking to Rogue, and the bottom of Pg. 5, setting the scene for Xavier’s dream. Epting’s layouts could be partly to blame but the balloon and caption placement, on the latter especially, don’t help any.<br /><br>Blamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342343767763035991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-46789343899652167602019-01-23T14:01:41.570-06:002019-01-23T14:01:41.570-06:00I agree this one isn't up to Lobdell's nor...I agree this one isn't up to Lobdell's normal "quiet issue" standard. Part of it, for me, is focusing a third of the issue on Iceman, who I've never found particulaly interesting outside of SPIDER-MAN AND HIS AMAZING FRIENDS.<br /><br />I didn't like Steve Epting's work in the 90s, whether on the occasional AVENGERS issue I saw, here, or in the occasional X-FACTOR issue, because he wasn't Image-y enough. Nowadays I think he's fine, though perhaps still not quite as flashy as I prefer. But in this sort of action-free issue, he does good work.<br /><br />I think my main takeaway from this one when I read it back in high school was "Archangel's rich? I thought he lost all his money! Oh, well -- cool!" I find him a much more fun character when he's wealthy.<br /><br />No-Prize solution: the majority of his money was in a trust that Hodge couldn't touch, but neither could Warren until he was, say, 30 (he probably got a smaller -- but still sizeable -- chunk of inheritence when his parents died, as well as a monthly stipend, explaining why he was able to be a wealthy playboy earlier on as well). Assuming he hit the three-decade mark around the same time as his classmate, Beast, maybe he just came into the money recently. He does specifically say that his "family fortune" was untouched by Hodge, which seems an odd choice of words if it was all his to begin with.<br /><br />"<b>Also, Psylocke’s hair is long again, after a point was made of it being short in X-Men #38.</b>"<br /><br />It's long-<i>ish</i>, but not as long as usual. I do think Epting was trying to draw a short-haired Psylocke here, but probably didn't realize how short it was meant to be.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580725636327122073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-44420804022279470222019-01-23T12:57:49.756-06:002019-01-23T12:57:49.756-06:00In Xavier's dream, the recognizable body of Jo...In Xavier's dream, the recognizable body of John Proudstar lays in the middle and front. To his left is an uncomposed woman, maybe the recently dead Illyana in her teens, maybe Maddie Pryor.Teemunoreply@blogger.com