tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post3272273685657918317..comments2024-03-28T10:18:00.370-05:00Comments on Gentlemen of Leisure: X-amining Excalibur #18Austin Gortonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-75678941588441164432018-07-23T17:38:30.253-05:002018-07-23T17:38:30.253-05:00"I'm at a complete loss as to why Jamie i..."I'm at a complete loss as to why Jamie is apparently (consciously or subconsciously) mangafying people on this world"<br /><br />I'm not sure why Jamie is doing it, but am I the only one who seems to understand that it's somewhat of an homage to Speed Racer (the Anime/Manga)? Not only is Jamie known for racing, but the facial expressions are very Speed Racer-like (check out those eyes and eyelashes). Also, the cover itself has the automobile background that Excalibur is bursting through.Kajicatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-88298391655995822662015-03-26T12:25:16.913-05:002015-03-26T12:25:16.913-05:00@Spithead: I think the two manga characters are me...@Spithead: <i>I think the two manga characters are meant to be an homage to anime/manga series "Dirty Pair"</i><br /><br />Ah, makes sense. I'm not hugely familiar with a lot of manga, so that's not a series I've heard of before. <br /><br />@wwk5d: <i>True, but it isn't implausible that it happened.</i><br /><br />Definitely. <br /><br />@Matt: <i>Ugh</i><br /><br />I almost just typed that for the entire post...<br /><br />@anonymous: <i>The problem is, the writer never explained WHY Jamie became a human trafficker in the first place (he seemed to be wealthy when we last saw him). So this was probably Claremont's attempt at an explanation.</i><br /><br />Makes sense. And good on Claremont for trying to make it all fit. <br /><br />@Kris: <i>Yeah those were a Dirty Pair nod (love the site BTW frequent lurker lol)</i><br /><br />Thanks! <br /><br />@Blam: <i>but I'm at a complete loss as to why Jamie is apparently (consciously or subconsciously) mangafying people on this world</i><br /><br />Right? I'm fine with the idea of the art changing to reflect Jamie manipulating reality, but why is it changing it that specific way? We're given no reason. Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-12827571731178258832015-03-19T07:26:04.703-05:002015-03-19T07:26:04.703-05:00"Ugh" indeed.
I got the homage/parody o...<br>"Ugh" indeed.<br /><br />I got the homage/parody of <i>Dirty Pair</i> — where the characters are called the Lovely Angels and nicknamed the Dirty Pair, hence the mash-up in this issue "Dirty Angels" — but I'm at a complete loss as to why Jamie is apparently (consciously or subconsciously) <i>manga</i>fying people on this world and I care only to the extent that I'm reading this stuff anyway so I wish it were good. <br /><br>Blamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342343767763035991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-29077483204205466602015-03-16T11:28:46.038-05:002015-03-16T11:28:46.038-05:00Man, that art... I genuinely can't tell if it&...Man, that art... I genuinely can't tell if it's supposed to look "off" because of the warped reality around them or if it's just bad art. Those sample panels with Kitty look like she was drawn temporarily in the BTAS style, though. Probably the best art in the book, totally by accident.Melahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05539894845356203447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-59790755572405276232015-03-12T22:02:09.385-05:002015-03-12T22:02:09.385-05:00Yeah those were a Dirty Pair nod (love the site BT...Yeah those were a Dirty Pair nod (love the site BTW frequent lurker lol) http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_PairKris(not Chris)https://www.blogger.com/profile/05390282931333390834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-78076846960968236602015-03-12T20:19:38.367-05:002015-03-12T20:19:38.367-05:00"Kitty notes that Psylocke spoke fondly of he...<br /> "Kitty notes that Psylocke spoke fondly of her older brother, which of course had to have happened off panel."<br />I always wondered about that- Brian learned that Jamie was involved in human trafficking and as a result refused to help him escape from the African country where he was being tortured. Are we supposed to assume he didn't tell Betsy to keep her from having to make a similar choice?<br />"This version of Jamie (and presumably the regular version as well) is jealous of how much his parents doted on Captain Britain and Psylocke, calling himself the prototype child for them."<br />The reason for this is that when Jamie was first introduced, he was written as a nice guy. We didn't see him for a while, and years later, when he reappeared, he was being held captive by Africans. Brian goes to rescue him and the twist is that Jamie was a human trafficker. The writer did this because he wanted to do a story where the Scary Black Men turned out to be the good guys and the captive White Guy the villain. The problem is, the writer never explained WHY Jamie became a human trafficker in the first place (he seemed to be wealthy when we last saw him). So this was probably Claremont's attempt at an explanation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-38647429754636051142015-03-12T16:15:52.292-05:002015-03-12T16:15:52.292-05:00Ugh.Ugh.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580725636327122073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-86005335382569457002015-03-12T16:01:15.598-05:002015-03-12T16:01:15.598-05:00"Kitty notes that Psylocke spoke fondly of he..."Kitty notes that Psylocke spoke fondly of her older brother, which of course had to have happened off panel."<br /><br />True, but it isn't implausible that it happened.<br /><br />"Nightcrawler is oddly protective of Kitty at one point, basically saying he should go after Brian and Meggan because she's a young girl, despite everything they've been through together."<br /><br />I don't mind Nightcrawler being an over-protective big brother of sorts to Kitty at this point. The reasoning you mentioned doesn't make sense, of course, but if was prevented differently - most of the X-men they were close to are dead, so Kurt feels it his job to maybe keep an eye out for her if only to honor her relationships with Storm, Colossus, and Wolverine - it might have come across better.<br /><br />CC's use of quicksilver here is another "almost" Claremontism.<br /><br />The story itself isn't horrible, it just needs a better artist. Can you imagine how much better this would have potentially been had Davis been the artist?wwk5dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-90323781467835629612015-03-12T15:41:58.617-05:002015-03-12T15:41:58.617-05:00I wonder if the artist responded to this ad:
http...I wonder if the artist responded to this ad:<br /><br />http://ripjaggerdojo.blogspot.com/2012/07/learn-to-draw-tarzan.html<br /><br />Maybe he should.Joe Pacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08347462635438263614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-10010581744245981562015-03-12T14:24:30.810-05:002015-03-12T14:24:30.810-05:00I think the two manga characters are meant to be a...I think the two manga characters are meant to be an homage to anime/manga series "Dirty Pair"Spitheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08434638331512076136noreply@blogger.com