tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post2082467610199320954..comments2024-03-28T10:18:00.370-05:00Comments on Gentlemen of Leisure: X-amining Uncanny X-Men #259Austin Gortonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-22923055648621246982015-04-14T12:08:31.450-05:002015-04-14T12:08:31.450-05:00@Blam: Ginger Baron at Baron-Fox Studios is a refe...@Blam: <i>Ginger Baron at Baron-Fox Studios is a reference to the Hollywood-set 1986 graphic novel The World of Ginger Fox and 1988 follow-up miniseries, written by Mike Baron.</i><br /><br />Good to know. Those did seem like oddly-specific names, but I had no idea what they were specifically referencing before. <br /><br /><i>I suppose the Siege Perilous has a knack for spitting folks out in a place and in a state of being where destiny warrants or somesuch, whether that's been made clear or implied/inferred. </i><br /><br />That's always been my inference, but it definitely is something that is implied about the Siege and not outright stated. <br /><br /><i>Does it also hold on to folks for awhile before dropping them out the other side?</i><br /><br />Again, I've always assumed that, but it's never outright stated. There's definitely a staggering to the release of the X-Men (I believe they come out in reverse order of how they went in, such that Rogue is first in/last out), and just by the dint of time passing in other plotlines, there has to be some mechanism that staggers the release of the X-Men. <br /><br />That said, the timing with Masque and Super Model Callisto is definitely hinky in this issue, as we see him torturing her and then see her running into Peter, yet enough time needs to have passed for her to, you know, get a modeling job and show up on that billboard (even if we wave away the mechanics of Masque somehow arranging for her to get a modeling gig in the first place). <br /><br />@Jonathan: <i>Also while I know that you didn't review Dazzler: The Movie, Teebore (which I think is kinda a shame but whatever), but have you read it?</i><br /><br />I have not read it (I did read a summary of it before this issue, just because it and the next one reference it so heavily). <br /><br />In hindsight, I should have reviewed it, but I was still a little iffy back then about how wide a net I wanted to cast in terms of covering things outside UXM and its direct spin-offs. My approach now is much more inclusive, and while I still don't regret avoiding most of Dazzler's solo series entirely (some people do, but I still don't consider it a true X-Men spinoff), I do regret not covering at least that issue, as it does tie-in pretty directly to this issue and the next. <br /><br />If I ever do a print or eBook collection of these reviews, consider Dazzler: The Movie a prime candidate for inclusion therein. <br /><br />@Matt: <i>The characters were really developed by Fabian Nicieza and Joe Kelly, respectively (with Nicieza then doing his own spin on Kelly's Deadpool a few years later). Those versions are the ones that have remained viable characters over the years.</i><br /><br />I would agree. Liefeld created them, but they've hung around by the work of other creators. <br /><br />Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-91055432403620905512015-04-14T10:54:22.897-05:002015-04-14T10:54:22.897-05:00@Anonymous: Just curious, what are your long term ...@Anonymous: <i>Just curious, what are your long term plans for X-Aminations? Do you plan to keep going once you're fully in Not-Blog X territory?</i><br /><br />I've not yet settled on a specific end date yet (currently, I'm considering either when UXM volume 1 ends with issue #544, or "when I catch up to the current issues"), but I'll definitely continue into Not Blog X territory (and beyond). <br /><br />I'm a big fan of G. Kendall's work (Not Blog X was one of the inspirations for X-aminations) but the 90s era X-Men are *my* X-Men, the X-Men that got me hooked on comics, so I couldn't not write about them. And I think there's enough to say about that era so as to avoid too much overlap/repetition between his thoughts and mine. <br /><br /><i>Keep up the good work!</i><br /><br />Thanks! <br /><br /><i>(PS: I don't know if you realized this but you and Fnord12 over at Supermegamonkey seem to have reached the same point in your respective projects.</i><br /><br />I did not realize that! The last time I checked in on his project, he was around "Fall of the Mutants". Impressive. I wish I had the time to expand X-aminations to the entire Marvel U. <br /><br />@Matt: <i> I'm thinking a "star crossed lovers" angle. The villain, of course, would be Asteroid M.. </i><br /><br />...<br /><br />That would be awesome. Like "Pet Avengers", but with sentient bases. Love it. :) <br /><br />@Nathan: <i>By the way can anyone recall whether Callisto as billboard model was given a name/ pseudonym in these stories?</i><br /><br />I think she does, though I can't for the life of me remember what it is, so maybe not. I'll keep an eye out for it in the upcoming run of issues. <br /><br /><i>And does anyone recall when Cerebro managed to get transferred from the X-Mansion to Muir Island? </i><br /><br />Presumably after "Mutant Massacre", when the injured Morlocks were transferred there and the X-Men briefly headquartered there. I recall Rogue or someone moving crates of equipment as well; easy to assume Cerebro (or components thereof) was included. <br /><br />@wwk5d: <i>We are really entering the era of plot-build up here, with some of it being resolved, some of it not. And some of the stuff being resolved wasn't exactly how CC intended it to be...</i><br /><br />Yeah, I feel like the Non-Team Era, more than any other, led to the most Claremont danglers. Of course, that's mostly just because it's the last significant era before he leaves the series, but still. <br /><br />@Johnny: <i>I'm not sure I agree with Sylvestri being "on point" here. Maybe he's ok, but I'm hard pressed to remember any issues after this that I enjoyed, art-wise, as much as his work on the Brood saga, or Fall of the Mutants, or Wolverine's crucified issue. </i><br /><br />"On point" relative to the work he did on issues #254 and #255, which seemed to show signs of either being rushed or overworked, likely due to the bi-weekly schedule. It's tough to compare this issue to the ones you cited, just because it's mostly a talky/setup issue compared to those. I just think his art looks more "normal" here than it did the last time we saw his work, like the break refreshed him. Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-23769224597743399982015-04-12T04:28:03.675-05:002015-04-12T04:28:03.675-05:00@Nathan, as with Darkhawk, I've seen Sleepwalk...@Nathan, as with Darkhawk, I've seen Sleepwalker only by a glimpse in Starlin's INFINITY trilogy. But I can't stop myself noting that generally it goes a bit awry when Marvel goes to pretty openly ape on DC doing something of elevated acclaim but in a little bit more traditional superheroic fashion. I've come to understand that Sleepwalker was Marvel's answer to Gaiman's SANDMAN, and good luck competing with that one, and who could forget SPIDER-MAN: REIGN, where the The Friendly Neighborhood Webslinger Returns and covers the concept with <i>his accursed radio-active spider-spe...</i>Teemunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-85655003273445047652015-04-11T17:06:41.494-05:002015-04-11T17:06:41.494-05:00@Teemu: Sleepwalker was lots of fun (Kirby's S...@Teemu: Sleepwalker was lots of fun (Kirby's Sandman done by way of Marvel).<br /><br />You know what I've begun realising about Darkhawk, as Mike Manley conceived him, was pretty cool but what let the title down most was Danny Fingeroth's scripting. The character was conceived to be a weapon sold to the highest bidder equipped with a range of technologies able to counter the abilities of a multifarious range of superbeings, the ultimate undefeatable threat. Which when realised, would have been a massively hot seller throughout the galaxy. Not only would criminals have bought them, planets would have purchased legions of them for defensive or offensive armies, their application would have been endless. Darkhawk was the first time this concept had been presented in comics, and has not been exploited since. This went over the head of subsequent writers like Concorde, and we instead got the unfortunate Fraternity of Raptors retcon (which hasn’t gone anywhere since I might add:(Nathan Adlerhttp://fanfix.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-30029906054034746852015-04-11T11:37:19.473-05:002015-04-11T11:37:19.473-05:00@Nathan, never read one single issue, I just alway...@Nathan, never read one single issue, I just always assumed there are reasons why he and others mentioned were left in the 90's.Teemunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-47452959184319767862015-04-10T17:51:41.156-05:002015-04-10T17:51:41.156-05:00@Matt: To me a Storm ongoing, with Claremont writi...@Matt: To me a Storm ongoing, with Claremont writing, could have been just as successful as a Wolverine one (she did have pretty great tales outside of the team, e.g. Lifedeath). And I'd have definitely preferred a series about her than Cyclops:)<br /><br />Claremont agreed with you about Wolverine not needing an ongoing, but when they forced the issue, he agreed to write to maintain some control over his direction for the character. Just a real shame he never stayed on beyond issue 10. I loved what he was doing with that title, and found the humour much more natural than what we got in Excalibur which just seemed to fall flat most of the time (a Clayton's attempt at British humour than just wasn’t laugh-out-loud funny enough). And the pulpy nature of the stories, like his own contemporary tribute to the rollicking yarns of Robert E. Howard.<br /><br />Re: Wolverine as the "loner," it often seemed like Claremont was using Logan as Charles Xavier’s greatest success – the loner who found a family in the most unlikely of places. Claremont’s Wolverine was also one of the major forces pulling the team back together after it disintegrated towards the end of his tenure. A lovely evolution.<br /><br />@Teemu: you're a fan of Darkhawk? Oh we must talk about the dropped threads from that title (seriously;) And yep was just about to mention Stalin until I got to the end of your comment:)Nathan Adlerhttp://fanfix.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-45406555657140731292015-04-10T16:06:39.940-05:002015-04-10T16:06:39.940-05:00Nathan: Ah Colossus, the X-Men's version of Cl...Nathan: <i>Ah Colossus, the X-Men's version of Clark Kent, even having his powers manifest on a farm!</i><br /><br />You know, Superman goes widely in the Europe literally translated as "Steelman" in many countries. Not sure why, maybe the Nazi connotations would translate too strongly into the local lingos. But hilariously on the other hand, 'Stalin' means exactly that.Teemunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-65831580528918993312015-04-10T15:23:23.283-05:002015-04-10T15:23:23.283-05:00About the 90's solo series for Cable and Deadp...About the 90's solo series for Cable and Deadpool, I'd rather ask questions why Darkhawk, Sleepwalker, Deathlok... well okay, Deathlok rocks.Teemunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-56410837331959136732015-04-10T15:11:28.054-05:002015-04-10T15:11:28.054-05:00Nathan -- Personally, I'd agree with Teemu'...Nathan -- Personally, I'd agree with Teemu's take on why the X-women never got their own series: the X-Men, more than members of other groups, are defined by their relationship to their team. He's not a woman, but Cyclops is my favorite X-Man. I would have very little interest in a series about him, though. He works best among his teammates. Personally, I don't think Wolverine needed an ongoing either, but being the "loner" in the group, if some member needed to have a series, he would work best.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580725636327122073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-54819756193816433792015-04-10T05:01:05.571-05:002015-04-10T05:01:05.571-05:00Nicieza & Kelly's Deapool > Way's D...Nicieza & Kelly's Deapool > Way's Deadpool.<br /><br />Then again, anything beats Way's version of anything...wwk5dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-73187396010268435692015-04-09T19:44:50.737-05:002015-04-09T19:44:50.737-05:00@Matt: I'm still intrigued why Marvel kept pus...@Matt: I'm still intrigued why Marvel kept pushing Cable and Deadpool for their own solo series in the 1990s, compared with other characters that had been around much longer!? Okay, they were hot properties, but so were most of the female X-Men.Nathan Adlerhttp://fanfix.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-7522660531067172002015-04-09T12:46:00.021-05:002015-04-09T12:46:00.021-05:00I would argue that Cable's and Deadpool's ...I would argue that Cable's and Deadpool's longevity comes in spite of Liefeld, not because of him. The characters were really developed by Fabian Nicieza and Joe Kelly, respectively (with Nicieza then doing his own spin on Kelly's Deadpool a few years later). <b>Those</b> versions are the ones that have remained viable characters over the years.<br /><br />(Though I guess much of modern Deadpool's popularity is owed to Daniel Way's time with the character too, as he significantly reinvented him after the Kelly/Nicieza years, making him far more bat-poop insane than he'd ever been before, and that, sadly, seems to be the version that Marvel has stuck with as definitive. Kelly's and Nicieza's Deadpool was a nut, but he had depth. Way's (and his successors') Deadpool is just crazy for crazy's sake, which is a shame.)Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580725636327122073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-81537456713010141902015-04-09T01:02:53.222-05:002015-04-09T01:02:53.222-05:00@Teemu: Ah Colossus, the X-Men's version of Cl...@Teemu: Ah Colossus, the X-Men's version of Clark Kent, even having his powers manifest on a farm!Nathan Adlerhttp://fanfix.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-84677859469695665672015-04-09T00:50:13.330-05:002015-04-09T00:50:13.330-05:00@Nathan: What's coming up on the internet any ...@Nathan: <i>What's coming up on the internet any day now re: comics being misogynistic?</i><br /><br />I was trying to allude to many a comic book sites having articles having the feminism emphasis on the comics media (may be a case of my own uneven selection), the big two allegedly catering for that segment of the audience and the traditionalists being opposed to it, what with the female characters new, more covering costumes being brought forth, the whole Chris Sims debacle. Soo... from that foundation it would be kind of easy to find an easy (but wrong, I think) reason why Claremontian female characters can't hold their own titles.<br /><br />Yeah I'd like to think Claremont's UNCANNY for most parts was a female ongoing. For example Storm and Rogue had their own lengthy character arcs while Colossus was like "I like drawing things". It takes to the wrong direction when you start making an explicit (marketing!) point of it.Teemunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-11451459525389435592015-04-09T00:14:18.065-05:002015-04-09T00:14:18.065-05:00@Teemu: What's coming up on the internet any d...@Teemu: What's coming up on the internet any day now re: comics being misogynistic? When Claremont left Marvel it took a huge backward step in its promotion of female characters. A shame that Claremont didn't settle down on writing teams when taking on new titles in the late 1980s and didn't instead propose a female ongoing! His star-power could have sustained it, and its success might have led to others.<br /><br />Why they didn't give X-Women to Claremont instead of Brian Wood is beyond me! <br /><br />As for B) plenty jumped at the chance of writing Cable early on:(<br /><br />Oh and keep an eye out for Blink's origin in your inbox;)Nathan Adlerhttp://fanfix.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-84665557284108144232015-04-08T23:41:02.850-05:002015-04-08T23:41:02.850-05:00Nathan: And I must say I'm forever intrigued h...Nathan: <i>And I must say I'm forever intrigued how Liefeld's creations Cable and Deadpool still manage to maintain titles when Claremont's femizons don't!?</i><br /><br />Well if you happen to pop at the internet any day now, you'll surely notice how comics is an insanely misogynist media. Spider-Woman has an ass and stuff.<br /><br />And then seriously, there are two reasons:<br /><br />1) Claremont's X-Women are team characters and live and breath from the team interaction. You can make a one-off solo every now and then for one, but that's not how they're even supposed to work on continuous basis. A solo title needs a supporting cast, but with the X-Men they're mostly each others supporting cast, and, let's face it, it's a lost cause to go and try find a better supporting cast for yourself. Very Bechdel. Plenty interactions.<br /><br />B) If you were a writer finally landing on your own book, who would you want your job to be measured against on constant basis: Claremont or Liefeld?Teemunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-32041377557083148902015-04-08T22:45:47.258-05:002015-04-08T22:45:47.258-05:00@Blam: No probs and sorry for potentially spoiling...@Blam: No probs and sorry for potentially spoiling upcoming issues (but yes it was posted for Mr. Powell's benefit also;).<br /><br />All the best catching up on your email and I look forward to any comments you have upon diving into my own blog.<br /><br />And ditto on Cable, despite my being somewhat responsible for perpetuating that;) And I must say I'm forever intrigued how Liefeld's creations Cable and Deadpool still manage to maintain titles when Claremont's femizons don't!?Nathan Adlerhttp://fanfix.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-54168880891820948092015-04-08T22:30:19.305-05:002015-04-08T22:30:19.305-05:00@Nathan: // One thing I find interesting is it alw...<br>@Nathan: <i>// One thing I find interesting is it always looked like the Siege Perilous deposited most of the X-Men in locations where they could confront Shadow King pawns … //</i><br /><br />I know you didn't share all that for only my benefit, but this is probably a good time to mention yet again that I've only read a few isolated X-Men issues every several years since the Claremont/BWS <i>Uncanny</i> #205 in early 1986 and none at all since the first couple Morrison/Quitely issues in 2001. [Wait... I checked out the first half-dozen or so of the time-traveling <i>All-New X-Men</i> when taking Marvel Unlimited for a spin last year.]<br /><br />To me, Amahl Farouk showed up once in a Claremont/Byrne issue's flashback tale. I'd even forgotten that he was behind Karma's embiggening in <i>New Mutants</i> until rereading it for this blog and I'm pretty sure I only know he's a.k.a. the Shadow King from picking that up in conversation over the years. Pretty much everything you're discussing is stuff I've yet to read as we march along here or stuff that colors what we've just read because it's only revealed or theorized from said stuff I've yet to read. What Teebore is currently covering may be the largest blind spot in my X-Men knowledge; I was in college, more or less pre-Internet, not visiting a comics shop regularly, and so without any way to keep abreast of storylines as would happen naturally in later years.<br /><br />Essentially — and I say this not to be obnoxious in the least, but with levity, with great affection for comics geekdom and personal headcanon, with a genuine desire to meander through your own blog one fine day having taken the briefest of glimpses — when it comes the giant paragraph of yours above I am <a href="https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/47/153603564_7281ad0588.jpg" rel="nofollow">that dog in the <i>Far Side</i> cartoon</a>, if you replace "Ginger" with "X-Men".<br /><br />All that said, I assume your exegesis is brilliant work.<br /><br />I have your delayed comment flagged in a sea of E-mail for reply. The last couple of weeks have been so full I can only watch the comment counter on that <i>New Mutants</i> #87 post tick upwards in morbid curiosity.<br /><br>Blamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342343767763035991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-88209568533991092372015-04-08T20:05:04.701-05:002015-04-08T20:05:04.701-05:00@Blam: One thing I find interesting is it always l...@Blam: One thing I find interesting is it always looked like the Siege Perilous deposited most of the X-Men in locations where they could confront Shadow King pawns: Psylocke in Hong Kong near Matsuo Tsurayaba, Rogue in Australia near Donald Pierce, which would seem to further suggest the Genegineer as another pawn given Havok was deposited in Genosha, and of course Masque here in Manhattan. The one that didn't seem to quite fit was Dazzler but when you really think about it, Eric Beale seems like just the kind of guy SK might control. And of course, LA was a site where Shadow King had his Gladiators organisation.<br /><br />But back to Masque in this issue: How does a guy who lives in a sewer get to sell glamour photos of Callisto to agencies that can put her on Manhattan billboards? One can imagine the Morlocks could steal the limos they used to ferry Callisto about, but the billboards suggest a more sophisticated, high-class operation than anything we've seen from Masque. But we've certainly seen high-class, high-society operations from the mastermind who ran nightclubs and rich peoples' illegal hangouts in LA, Madripoor, and Cairo. So that's the first point. We might add that the exquisite psychological torment of what Masque does to Callisto also seems more sophisticated than what he's done I the past. Then there's the gang that chases Cal in Uncanny 260 who are wearing X-Men masks. They seem to foreshadow the Morlocks we see next issue whom Masque has warped to look like X-Men. But the gang seemed human and they wore physical masks – if they worked for Masque, wouldn't he have just warped them for real? The best explanation is that the gang wasn't working for Masque, but the gang and Masque were both working for SK. Having a gang and the Morlocks steal the X-Men's identities fits with SK's desire to corrupt Xavier's dream. It's a variation on the same thing he does with his Muir Island X-Men. Even the location fits: SK is systematically taking over Xavier's and the X-Men's bases or homes: first Australia, then Muir Island, the X-mansion's bunker (which only Cal can access, and Masque demands the codes), and maybe Kirinos, too, where Fenris tries to kill Forge and Banshee (especially when their pilot becomes a Reaver). Finally, note that Masque had turned several Morlocks into warped versions of X-Men he's never even met. When he encounters Peter Nicholas, the script even includes a line where Masque wonders out loud how he can recognise that Peter looks like Colossus when he's never met Colossus "in the flesh." (The claim is incorrect, though: he saw Colossus's civilian form in Uncanny 170.) This is a dead giveaway, since it's the third time we've had a script tells us that a character knows something he shouldn't know: the first time was when Pierce knew that it was the X-Men fighting Master Mold, even though they couldn't be seen; and the second time was when Pierce knew what the Siege Perilous was and how it worked, which Cole (or maybe it was Reese or Macon) said must be knowledge straight from God's lips to Pierce's ear. So if Pierce was getting his info from SK, which I'm now certain he was, then it stands to reason Masque was, too.<br /><br />@Jason: Shared above, as requested!<br /><br />@Blam again: some comments for you here in a delayed comment:<br />http://www.therealgentlemenofleisure.com/2014/08/x-amining-wolverine-5.htmlNathan Adlerhttp://fanfix.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-82636317138189362442015-04-08T16:47:03.373-05:002015-04-08T16:47:03.373-05:00Ginger Baron at Baron-Fox Studios is a reference t...<br>Ginger Baron at Baron-Fox Studios is a reference to the Hollywood-set 1986 graphic novel <i>The World of Ginger Fox</i> and 1988 follow-up miniseries, written by Mike Baron.<br /><br /><i>// Colossus becomes infatuated with a model he sees on ads around town; we'll shortly learn said model is actually Callisto, her features changed by Masque as part of his revenge scheme. //</i><br /><br />There are staggering levels of coincidence in this issue, not even counting him bumping into her on the street — which could be Masque's doing. Peter has either just appeared or been squatting naked (you know what I mean) in this empty space where the Genosha Press Gang work over Phillip and Jenny 867530... uh, Jenny 4817. Although browsing the issue again I note Peter says that the first moment he remembers is when he saw Phillip. I suppose the Siege Perilous has a knack for spitting folks out in a place and in a state of being where destiny warrants or somesuch, whether that's been made clear or implied/inferred. <br /><br />Does it also hold on to folks for awhile before dropping them out the other side? Even without knowing that the model was Callisto, I was quite at sea in terms of when these sundry plot threads take place relative to one another. That page with Callisto and Masque has to occur a good bit prior to the paste-up of the billboard Peter sees a couple of pages later with New Model Callisto on it, unless Masque is altering her face, taking pictures and doing things with them, altering it again, <i>etc.</i>, which may be made clear soon. Enough time has occurred since we read the Reavers' assault on the X-Men's Outback base that it feels like Peter and Allison shouldn't just be popping out the Siege now. I realize that we spent time with Ororo, Betsy, and Logan that may have been concurrent with the events of this issue; then again, I feel like the Muir Island page throws another wrench into the chronology, in one direction re Peter's emergence and the opposite direction re Callisto's torture by Masque. Perhaps <i>Acts of Vengeance</i> broke the spacetime continuum.<br /><br />I wondered about Peter's accent myself. On the one hand Professor X's instant psychic English tutorial could well leave his students with pitch-perfect accents (of whatever sort he desired), but on the other I always took the Russian and German that Colossus and Nightcrawler sprinkled into their speech as indicative of them retaining accents of their native languages.<br /><br>Blamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342343767763035991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-32716589188814461572015-04-07T10:18:00.659-05:002015-04-07T10:18:00.659-05:00Isn't there a bottomless Rogue jumping into la...Isn't there a bottomless Rogue jumping into lake in X-MEN VS. AVENGERS #1? Maybe as one of those nasty jokes the guys used to pull at the colorists that didn't get caught that time, but anything counts. Can't ensure, stupid AvsX has made the miniseries ungoogleable.Teemunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-80897380586289296562015-04-07T00:20:26.465-05:002015-04-07T00:20:26.465-05:00This issue and the next few issues are really hard...This issue and the next few issues are really hard to jump into if you haven't read basically the Silvestri run on the book. I started X-Men with 278 and I remember getting this and the upcoming Dazzler 'Death' issue as I was piecing together back issues because they were cheaper books and trying to read through them was so confusing. To this day, this issue through around 268/269 are my least read X-Men books. <br /><br />If you don't have the random Dazzler Graphic Novel this is also sort of hard to follow. That was not an easy book to track down since it was larger sized and most local stores never have Marvel Graphic Novels and it's never been reprinted as far as I know, I believe I had to get it from MyComicShop or eBay. I'm almost sure there is also nudity in the book which was shocking and something I then had to hide from the rest of my collection because of it. (How many other X-Men have actually been shown in continuity without the thought bubbles or random string in the way and shown actual nudity?)Scott Churchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16795112175606617848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-65622805119746604782015-04-06T00:00:17.073-05:002015-04-06T00:00:17.073-05:00One weird thing here. "Peter Nicholas" a...One weird thing here. "Peter Nicholas" assumes that's he's American. Does this mean that Colossus has lost his Russian accent after emerging from the siege perilous? It's not impossible mind you, but wouldn't he be more likely to think he was Russian? I mean, if Nightcrawler suddenly had amnesia, he wouldn't think he was a native of, say, Texas or anything.<br /><br />Also while I know that you didn't review Dazzler: The Movie, Teebore (which I think is kinda a shame but whatever), but have you read it? This issue and the next references the graphic novel, do I thought this would be a good time to ask.Jon Dubyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11783906806644566810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-35594784492469489962015-04-04T17:04:18.739-05:002015-04-04T17:04:18.739-05:00I can think of 2 issues he did after this...one wi...I can think of 2 issues he did after this...one with Dazzler, and the Hardcase issue.wwk5dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-18113994835333008232015-04-04T12:34:16.448-05:002015-04-04T12:34:16.448-05:00@Johnny Feathers
Just because we are getting Stry...@Johnny Feathers<br /><br />Just because we are getting Stryfe this month, doesn't mean Silvestri deserves a "y" in his name.<br /><br />Hard to remember any issues after this with Silvestri as he only did one, issue 260.<br /><br />I think these issues showcase his best Ali and have some good characterization that is boosted by the artwork. I would put them up there with the Scotland/Juggernaut issues, SF/Marauders issues, FotM, 239 and 244 as some of his best work on UX.Zephyrnoreply@blogger.com