tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post193549547931362690..comments2024-03-28T10:18:00.370-05:00Comments on Gentlemen of Leisure: Game of Thrones 4x10: The ChildrenAustin Gortonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-44867377446529528902014-06-24T09:29:03.054-05:002014-06-24T09:29:03.054-05:00@Reese
"He at LEAST got to sit on the Iron T...@Reese<br /><br />"He at LEAST got to sit on the Iron Throne & feel all important for a little while (during Tyrion's trial) before getting murdered on the porcelain equivalent of said throne"<br /><br />Dude, you don't even wanna go near the Iron Porcelain Throne. It's forged from the armour of thousands of men who crapped themselves when the dragons showed up. Not recommended.<br /><br />"now Tommen won't have Tywin manipulating him from behind the iron curtain."<br /><br />Sir, I salute you.<br /> <br />@Blam <br /><br />"Y'know, I respect the whole "free folk" thing of not having a king, sharing food and drink and tents and lovers, and generally being a bunch of snowbound hippies — hippies who are really, really good at killing people — but maybe some kind of state visit by Mance Rayder to Castle Black, asking for parley with representatives of the Seven Kingdoms, might've been the way to go before slaughtering whole villages." <br /><br />That's definitely a fair point, but it's worth pointing out that with seemingly pretty much the whole of the Watch's rangers dead at the Fist, Mance must have figured he had a real chance for a surprise attack that would wipe the Watch out. A parlay would spoil that advantage. I'm not saying that means it shouldn't have been tried, but I can understand Mance's decision not to.<br /><br />Also, there's actually quite an interesting subtext going on here as regards immigrants. You have a huge number of people fleeing a genuinely horrible fate who want to come into your lands, but don't have the slightest inclination to modify their behaviour to fit around yours, because what you see as obviously the right way to do things just seems arbitrary and ridiculous from their perspective. On the other hand, the extra manpower would probably come in handy. So what do you do?<br /><br />@Teebore"<br /><br />If he knocked three times, would it mean Tyrion wants him? :)" <br /><br />Three knocks is for White Walkers. I think. It's getting awfully confusing.<br /><br />"to me, it was clear she was heading to Dagobah, er, Braavos to begin her assassin training, but I'm curious how others read that "<br /><br />I thought this was needlessly badly explained. I'm sure in the books it's made clearer as to whether the coin means the Captain has to do whatever she says, or just that he's compelled to give her a berth.<br /><br />It is of course an interesting question as to what would be more fun to see; Arya hanging out with assassins, or Arya stabbing ice zombies to (more) death.SpaceSquidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09760939592584995876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-24209652729766814772014-06-24T09:25:53.589-05:002014-06-24T09:25:53.589-05:00A quick word on the Tyrion's wife discussion, ...A quick word on the Tyrion's wife discussion, I won't say too much for obvious reasons, but in the book it's fairer to say he begins to obsess over his old wife, rather than trying to find her (I mean, how could he, particularly whilst headed for a different continent?). That said, there is some interesting stuff in book 5 that might connect in a rather grim way to this plot thread, so it'll be interesting to see if they reintroduce it next year.<br /><br />"He kills her. I'm not sure how to feel about that. "<br /><br />A lot of people are really upset about this, based on the ideas that it's an act of "fridging" a female character to give dramatic weight to a male one (which I agree with), that it's really grim how so many male viewers were clamouring she deserved to die (which I also agree with), and that Shae wasn't nearly so unpleasant this season as people have made her out to be (which I definitely don't agree with. Screw Shae. Just don't, y'know, strangle her).<br /><br />"I don't think I'm intelligent enough to speak of the implications of the show presenting us with a freed slave wanting to be a slave again. "<br /><br />As Teebore said, the show implied an obvious false dichotomy, as does pretty much everyone who brings up the tired argument that some US slaves might have had a better life pre-emancipation. Which, yes, probably, if you've got close to 4 million slaves in a country, some of them might actually find their post-slave life harder in some respects. But this set-up always elides the fact that it was the rich who owned the slaves, and the idea that they couldn't afford to keep on their favourites <i>by paying them</i> is utterly ridiculous. What it boils down to is the argument that slave-owners are terrible human beings, who will continue to be terrible human beings after emancipation, but not every slave felt the brunt of that terribleness, and gosh darn doesn't that make things complicated when talking about basic social justice?<br /><br />Well, uh, no. No it doesn't.<br /><br />"Not only did I miss that, I missed Shae's death too! Boy did I biff that one pretty terribly."<br /><br />I'd also argue Pyp and Grenn were in enough episodes of seasons 1, 3and 4 (Grenn was in S2 as well) to be worth counting. They were certainly in the show more than Styr or Karl.SpaceSquidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09760939592584995876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-52397827225445706732014-06-20T17:11:35.432-05:002014-06-20T17:11:35.432-05:00@Matt: "Did you forget to add Tywin to the Ma...@Matt: "Did you forget to add Tywin to the Main Character Death Count?"<br /><br />Not only did I miss that, I missed Shae's death too! Boy did I biff that one pretty terribly.<br /><br />"Do we know where Tyrion and Varys are headed? Varys is from Braavos, right? I wouldn't be surprised to see them arrive there and bump into Arya."<br /><br />That's the theory I hear. I suppose it could happen since, even though Game of Thrones hates people reuniting, I don't think Tyrion meeting Arya would count as any real "reunion." Although it would be the coming together to two of the most popular characters.<br /><br />@Reese: "Maybe Daenerys should watch the "How to train your dragon" movies"<br /><br />Ha!<br /><br />"So, does DROGON burn his food after he eats it, or is he just burning shit for the fun of it at this point?"<br /><br />I'm not quite sure. We've seen the dragons eat raw meat, right? I know in some fantasy fiction dragons burn things and then feed off the ashes. Not sure about Game of Thrones though.<br /><br />"I'll miss him a little bit; he kinda reminded me of Magneto."<br /><br />I can see that. Tywin always struck me as someone who could whip Westeros in shape...even if I wouldn't always agree with his methods. (Unlike Joffrey who seemed more likely to run Westeros into the ground.)<br /><br />@Blam: "Her name is Shae."<br /><br />*rimshot*<br /><br />"It just occurred to me that the race is on in the "Lannister" family for another heir since they've already had to move to the spare."<br /><br />I don't think there's anything Cersei can do. Even if she did lie about who the parent of her next child is, I don't think there's a father she could have that would produce an heir. Except Stannis, I suppose?<br /><br />I believe Tommen "Baratheon" is the only one who can produce an heir now. If he dies before that occurs then Stannis would be recognized as the rightful king by everyone. If I'm following the rules of succession properly.<br /><br />"The arrival of Stannis' army at Mance Rayder's camp was pretty cool too"<br /><br />I did like that scene too. Especially how it showed the contrasting styles of the two armies.<br /><br />@angmc43: "However, I was surprised that they left out one major plot-point from Jaime when he released Tyrion."<br /><br />I've heard about that and, as others have stated, maybe they couldn't find a good way to bring it up. And there are certainly other ways Tyrion can find out about it. (Varys is kind of a know-it-all.)<br /><br />But you'd think he'd have to find out soon? Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought in the books Tyrion goes off in search of his estranged wife. So, if he doesn't do that, what will he be doing?<br /><br />@Teebore: "How long before the Lannisters accept that Pycelle is an ineffective fuckwit?"<br /><br />I've always got the feeling that Pycelle isn't the complete fuckwit he portrays himself as.<br /><br />"Which, I think, is supposed to be the bookend to the scene between them in Baelor's Sept next to Joffrey's body, in that he forced himself on her there, and she returns the favor here."<br /><br />I don't take that scene as Cersei attempting "to get even" since the writers believe there was never any rape so there's nothing for Cersei to get even for. The entire implication of that sentence is a much larger discussion.<br /><br />"If she was, she probably could have taken it ran by now."<br /><br />Maybe, but the Hound had other uses. Women...once they don't have a use for you they take all your money and run. Am I right, guys?<br /><br />"but to me, it was clear she was heading to Dagobah, er, Braavos to begin her assassin training, but I'm curious how others read that."<br /><br />I originally thought the coin meant a Braavosi had to do whatever Arya said and, thus, they were sailing for the north but everyone believes she's going to Braavos so I probably just misinterpreted things.Dr. Bitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13568570859981368717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-80224701258306211092014-06-19T15:59:31.285-05:002014-06-19T15:59:31.285-05:00@angmc43: // I was surprised that they left out on...<br>@angmc43: <i>// I was surprised that they left out one major plot-point from Jaime when he released Tyrion.//</i><br /><br />I've seen that mentioned a couple of other places. Like Teebore says, I suspect that it would've been hard to fit in the episode, which clocked in at over an hour, but if the showrunners really wanted to play that thread out they could've, say, included the revelation in the long beetle-squishing convo between Jaime and Tyrion a couple of episodes back, giving an entirely different color to Jaime's surprise exfiltration plan. Which leads me to believe that they didn't want Jaime and Tyrion's parting to have the acrimonious cast it did in the book, although whether that's for HBO Tyrion's sake or to keep HBO Jaime a more sympathetic character I haven't the faintest.<br /><br />@Teebore: <i>// "You wanna?"/"No"/"You sure?"/"Alright" //</i><br /><br />Exactly. Plus which, I don't know if we're supposed to see Cersei as simply resigning herself to and aligning herself with her brother against her father or really having an epiphany that she loves him no matter what's transpired in both their lives in the time they were apart, but it sure played to me like the former. Jaime doesn't seem to notice, since all the blood is rushing to his sword, but Cersei rubbing her face on his metal hand brought to mind every barely convincing seduction scene (in order for the woman to save her life and/or distract the villain while the other heroes carry out their plan) I've ever seen. Meaning that in both this <i>and</i> the previous scene in the sept, Cersei is giving in to it, albeit this time at her own instigation.<br /><br />@Teebore: <i>// to me, it was clear she was heading to Dagobah, er, Braavos to begin her assassin training, but I'm curious how others read that //</i><br /><br />Pretty much like you say.<br /><br>Blamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342343767763035991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-26735898140607513562014-06-19T14:57:24.897-05:002014-06-19T14:57:24.897-05:00@Teebore: // If he knocked three times, would it m...<br>@Teebore: <i>// If he knocked three times, would it mean Tyrion wants him? :) //</i> <br /><br />On the ceiling? Yes. Which, come to think of it, might be a problem for Tyrion…<br /><br>Blamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342343767763035991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-14922994340128646452014-06-19T12:52:55.415-05:002014-06-19T12:52:55.415-05:00@Matt: Unlike Joffrey, who was a villain I outrig...@Matt: <i> Unlike Joffrey, who was a villain I outright hated and couldn't wait to see dead and haven't missed since his death, I found Tywin to be a very compelling "villain you love to hate".</i><br /><br />Ditto. Tywin at least was a fun villain to hate. So, I guess, in the end, the show still managed to screw us over, by finally giving us a satisfying end to a villain, but it's the villain we least wanted to be rid of. :) <br /><br /><i>Do we know where Tyrion and Varys are headed?</i><br /><br />TOP MEN, er, I mean, east. I think all that was said (when Jaime freed Tyrion) was that a ship would take him east. But yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if they bumped into Arya, eventually. Like, two seasons from now, given the rate characters bump into each other. <br /><br />@Reese: <i>So, does DROGON burn his food after he eats it, or is he just burning shit for the fun of it at this point?</i><br /><br />I think the idea is that the dragons like their food roasted, so they burn it, then eat it. Which either means the guy got his burnt daughter away from Drogon before he could eat her, or that Drogon is now killing just for fun. <br /><br />@Blam: <i>but maybe some kind of state visit by Mance Rayder to Castle Black, asking for parley with representatives of the Seven Kingdoms, might've been the way to go before slaughtering whole villages</i><br /><br />Indeed. And while I can maybe buy the argument that Mance himself couldn't be that envoy, because the Night's Watch, especially under Alliser, probably would just kill him on sight, you'd think he could have sent SOMEONE to parlay. It might take some time, and maybe even some unnecessary Wildling deaths, but certainly no more than would die in an all out assault on the wall. <br /><br /><i>Her name is Shae.</i><br /><br />Ha! <br /><br />@angmc43: <i>However, while making their escape, Jaime confessed</i><br /><br />I don't know how it goes down in the book, but I wonder if the show struggled with how to organically work that into the scene? I mean, if Jaime showed up and was all "I'm freeing you, go here and knock, Varys is waiting. Also, remember your whore-wife? Not a whore after all. Sorry" it would come across as totally random. Yet at the same time, it's not the kind of thing that could have been inserted into an earlier conversation between them. <br /><br />So basically, the show would have needed to make the Jaime/Tyrion scene in this episode longer to accommodate that revelation, and they probably just didn't have the time given everything else going on. <br /><br />I wouldn't be surprised that it makes its way onto the show eventually though, especially given all the impacts you lay out. I mean, Varys knows everything; maybe he tells Tyrion on the way East or something. Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-57789417358822145082014-06-19T12:41:20.991-05:002014-06-19T12:41:20.991-05:00All he wants is for him and his people to escape t...<i>All he wants is for him and his people to escape the North. At the same time, I did wonder what Mance and his army planned to do once in the South.</i><br /><br />Right? Like, were they going to storm that tunnel and then just start building houses and farms? Were the giants going to reopen the tavern that was closed after the Wilding's advance force slaughtered everyone? <br /> <br /><i>Also, you named your dragon Drogon? She really burned a lot of brain cells there.</i><br /><br />Ha! Not until now did I realize that Drogon was just dragon with a different vowel. She named him after Khal Drogo, but in hindsight, she might have chosen a different name that didn't carry the suggestion that she was an idiot...<br /><br />(I believe the other two dragons are Viserion and Rhaegal, which at least suggest she put some effort into those names. :) )<br /><br /><i>So Shae was sleeping with Tyrion's father. That had to doubly sting.</i><br /><br />Especially after all the harping Tywin did about Tyrion not bringing whores to court. It made me wonder if perhaps Shae was in Tywin's employ all along, but it makes more sense that she wasn't, and just latched on to the best opportunity after what she (stupidly) viewed as Tyrion's betrayal (sending her away after claiming he wanted to be with Sansa now just to get her to leave).Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-9506098139066871752014-06-19T12:41:14.812-05:002014-06-19T12:41:14.812-05:00This was a surprisingly satisfying episode. For th...This was a surprisingly satisfying episode. For the first time, as you say, a villain went out in a satisfying manner, receiving some measure of comeuppance and dying at the hands of someone who deserved to pull the trigger, which is a rare thing for this show. Plus, Stannis showed, drawing some threads together and eliminating the possibility that his arrival would be held for next season and drag out the whole Wilding/Watch conflict. <br /><br />And, of course, the Brienne/Hound fight was pretty damned awesome, as were the Harryhausen skeletons. <br /><br /><i>I'm not entirely convinced that's the case nor am I convinced that Jon Snow believes that's the case but the end result is Mance is taken captive.</i><br /><br />Ditto on both, though I do think sparing Mance was the right decision. <br /><br /><i>Even though Tormund seems to be contradicting himself, Jon obliges.</i><br /><br />He said the dead can't hear. He didn't say they don't <i>care</i>. ;)<br /><br /><i>Grand Maester Pycell is sure the Mountain will die</i><br /><br />How long before the Lannisters accept that Pycelle is an ineffective fuckwit? He can chock you full of opiates to mercy kill you, and that's about it, seems like. <br /><br /><i>Cersei then goes to Jaime and says she found a way for them to be together. She then forces herself on him.</i><br /><br />Which, I think, is supposed to be the bookend to the scene between them in Baelor's Sept next to Joffrey's body, in that he forced himself on her there, and she returns the favor here. <br /><br />Except the former was clearly depicted as rape, as unintentionally as the creators may insist that was, whereas this barely approached that level (ie "You wanna?"/"No"/"You sure?"/"Alright"). So, on top of all the other problems with that rape scene, it also kind of takes away the intended impact of this scene by creating an imbalance when they're meant to be parallel. <br /><br /><i>The plan is take Tyrion to a secret passage where he knocks twice to meet Varys who will take Tyrion to freedom.</i><br /><br />If he knocked three times, would it mean Tyrion wants him? :) <br /><br /><i>He kills her. I'm not sure how to feel about that. </i><br /><br />Ditto. I did appreciate that the show seemed to present it, at least a little, as self defense. In that, she reached for the dagger and threatened to reveal him, so he had to quiet her, and they fought, and he got the upper hand. <br /><br />Clearly, he took it further than he had to, but there's at least some element of "self defense gone too far" than just cold-blooded murder. <br /><br /><i>Daenerys refuses to institute slavery again but says the man is welcome to sign any contract he chooses provided it doesn't exceed one year.</i><br /><br />Yeah, I feel like someone needs to explain to Dany and the people of Mereen that there is a happy alternative between "free and living in the streets" and "enslaved". It's called working. I mean, we have thousands of people in our world who teach children but aren't enslaved. We call them teachers. <br /><br />So if this guy wants to go back to work teaching his master's kids, fine. Just make sure the master pays him a fair wage, gives him time off on occasion and understands that he can't have him summarily executed or beaten on a whim. <br /><br /><i>Was Arya just after his money all long?</i><br /><br />I don't think so. If she was, she probably could have taken it ran by now. I think she just figured he was dying, he didn't need it. And that letting him die slowly and painfully was a better way to get her revenge for the butcher's boy than mercy killing him, even if doing so would have made her the agent of his death. <br /><br /><i>Soon enough, Arya is setting sail for the fifth season.</i><br /><br />I know we discussed this offline, but to me, it was clear she was heading to Dagobah, er, Braavos to begin her assassin training, but I'm curious how others read that. <br /><br />Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-2876894795160470622014-06-18T17:42:00.168-05:002014-06-18T17:42:00.168-05:00I'm not an avid watcher of GoT as all of you. ...I'm not an avid watcher of GoT as all of you. However, I've kept a check on the stories, both book and TV. The Tyrion-Tywin-Shae confrontation was something I've known for a year, and so this episode was personally much awaited.<br /><br />However, I was surprised that they left out one major plot-point from Jaime when he released Tyrion. You probably know about Tyrion's first wife, Tysha, who was revealed to be a prostitute, a revelation by Tywin and Jaime that changed the dwarf prince into the person we see today.<br />However, while making their escape, Jaime confessed: Tysha was never a prostitute, the falsehood was masterminded by Tywin because he did not want a commoner in the family.<br />The ramifications of this confession pretty much breaks the Lannister family apart:<br />-It motivates Tyrion's decision to see his father, with Tywin's foot-in-mouth comments on his ex-daughter-in-law instead of Shae. The children are now permanently stripped of their father.<br />-The brothers' relationship is over, with Tyrion, betrayed by Jaime's complicity, declaring vengeance on all his family.<br />-Tyrion retaliates by confessing to Jaime that Cersei has cheated on him with many lovers. This truth effectively throws Cersei off Jaime's pedestal, ending their incestuous love story.<br /><br />I was also surprised HBO sanitized Tywin's death. Tyrion actually aimed at his abdomen, causing all his bowels to leak out.<br /><br />On a different note: I was impressed by Stannis' rescue charge. angmc43@hotmail.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15379700547226493861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-19658905680652654572014-06-18T17:10:58.792-05:002014-06-18T17:10:58.792-05:00Sorry… I put air quotes around "Lannister&quo...<br>Sorry… I put air quotes around "Lannister" when I meant to write "Baratheon" (the point being, of course, that Tommen is not really a Baratheon but a full-blooded Lannister).<br /><br>Blamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342343767763035991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-25978692399034072392014-06-18T17:00:50.065-05:002014-06-18T17:00:50.065-05:00// Um…Bran has tried flying before and didn't ...<br><i>// Um…Bran has tried flying before and didn't work out so well for him. //</i><br /><br />Zing!<br /><br /><i>// I don't think I'm intelligent enough to speak of the implications of the show presenting us with a freed slave wanting to be a slave again. //</i><br /><br />Count me in (or out) too as not wanting to get into a grand debate, but it's easy to see how Dany's new world order carries the problem of what is to be done with or by the former slaves, and it doesn't make sense to entirely rule out renegotiating "owner/owned" into "employer/employee" on a situational basis. From what he said this fellow had a genuine bond with the family's children and was doing something to better them as well as drawing a sense of purpose or self-worth in doing it. <br /><br /><i>// Soon enough, Arya is setting sail for the fifth season. //</i><br /><br />Arya joining up with Brienne would've been a neat and natural twist — not to mention, it's hard to think what else there is for Brienne to do now. Plus, I'll miss the Hound in terms of his own story and his travels with Arya. So watching her go off on her own was disappointing. Her playing the coin and getting passage on a ship to Braavos, however, was quite an awesome little consolation prize, as I've been wanting to see more of that place. With Tyrion and Varys apparently headed there as well, I think it will become as crucial a location onscreen as it has been behind the curtains.<br /><br /><i>// Overall, I liked the scene involving Bran and company battling the skeletons. //</i><br /><br />I <i>loved</i> it, partly because of the Ray Harryhausen <i>Sinbad</i> flashbacks, partly just because we rarely see the outright supernatural at work in <i>Game of Thrones</i> that it's even more exciting when we do. The arrival of Stannis' army at Mance Rayder's camp was pretty cool too, with its bird's-eye shot of the relentless, seemingly endless forces on horseback. Brienne versus the Hound, though, probably gets my vote for best fight of the episode and possibly the whole year, just for its sheer ferocious, brutal naturalism.<br /><br>Blamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342343767763035991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-47916186199887781712014-06-18T16:56:46.834-05:002014-06-18T16:56:46.834-05:00// All he wants is the ability to go south for the...<br><i>// All he wants is the ability to go south for the winter like every other self-respecting northerner. //</i> <br /><br />Y'know, I respect the whole "free folk" thing of not having a king, sharing food and drink and tents and lovers, and generally being a bunch of snowbound hippies — hippies who are really, really good at killing people — but maybe some kind of state visit by Mance Rayder to Castle Black, asking for parley with representatives of the Seven Kingdoms, might've been the way to go before slaughtering whole villages. I get that there's distrust between the "wildlings" and the "crows" that goes back generations, tales of nearly (?) mythical proportions that have them considering one another subhuman. It's just that I figure a truce in return for safe passage seems like the kind of thing you should open with before there are hostilities to end in the first place.<br /><br />People who've read Martin's books and short stories, which I gather have lots of historical and contextual information on the world of <i>Ice and Fire</i>, may well have a list of reasons why that would never have worked. As may people who possess better memories of <i>Game of Thrones</i> than I; honestly, since I have yet to rewatch any of it, I know there are running threads and big-picture connections that I miss.<br /><br /> <i>// Stannis asks Jon what Ned would do. //</i><br /><br />The <i>first</i> thing he'd do is wonder how the hell he got there and why there were stitches all the way around his neck.<br /><br /><i>// Anyway, Tywin says that Cersei isn't the first person to be forced into marriage and she won't be the last. //</i><br /><br />Which is totally how you convince someone to go along with that kind of thing.<br /><br /><i>// He then immediately leaves to find some sand to bury his head in. //</i><br /><br />Her name is Shae.<br /><br /><i>// And do it they shall. //</i><br /><br />It just occurred to me that the race is on in the "Lannister" family for another heir since they've already had to move to the spare. Either Cersei gets knocked up by Jaime again so Tommen has a baby brother or Margaery ramps up her midnight visits to the boy king's bedchamber.<br /><br>Blamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342343767763035991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-21425568124967288532014-06-18T16:31:29.770-05:002014-06-18T16:31:29.770-05:00Maybe Daenerys should watch the "How to train...Maybe Daenerys should watch the "How to train your dragon" movies, because that scene where she chained up her two dragons made absolutely no sense to me...I mean, if they didn't burn the child, why punish them? Plus, I'm sure they have no idea why their mother apparently hates them now; she should've at least put the burned child in their faces & said "you see this? NO, BAD DRAGONS, BAD!!" then hit them on the nose, or something. Idk<br /><br />It sounded like they were yelling "ma-ma" to Daenerys while she was walking away...that was kinda wak.<br /><br />So, does DROGON burn his food after he eats it, or is he just burning shit for the fun of it at this point?<br /><br /><br />Tywin's death was definitely surprising. I'll miss him a little bit; he kinda reminded me of Magneto. He at LEAST got to sit on the Iron Throne & feel all important for a little while (during Tyrion's trial) before getting murdered on the porcelain equivalent of said throne. But, all's well that ends well..now Tommen won't have Tywin manipulating him from behind the iron curtain.<br /><br />I'm sad it's all over for this year :( ...a year is too damn long to wait for something this frickin' awesome!!Reesenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-31237489358504741172014-06-18T14:27:52.984-05:002014-06-18T14:27:52.984-05:00Did you forget to add Tywin to the Main Character ...Did you forget to add Tywin to the Main Character Death Count?<br /><br />I'm going to miss him, by the way. Unlike Joffrey, who was a villain I outright hated and couldn't wait to see dead and haven't missed since his death, I found Tywin to be a very compelling "villain you love to hate".<br /><br />Overall, this episode felt more like a season finale than any so far. All the previous seasons seemed to have the ninth episode be the big one, and used the tenth to set characters up for the following year. This time, while episode nine was certainly big, episode ten features some big developments as well, in addition to setting things up.<br /><br />Do we know where Tyrion and Varys are headed? Varys is from Braavos, right? I wouldn't be surprised to see them arrive there and bump into Arya.<br /><br />And speaking of, I'll miss her adventures with the Hound, too. I think he actually meant it when he told Brienne that he was looking out for her. He did some awful stuff over the course of the series, but if he's really dead, I'll miss him. He actually seemed to be redeemable, unlike most of the other villains on the show.<br /><br />Until next spring!Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580725636327122073noreply@blogger.com