tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post1726785302861783215..comments2024-03-22T04:20:11.870-05:00Comments on Gentlemen of Leisure: The Walking Dead 5x05: Self HelpAustin Gortonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-52288553626289165362014-11-12T15:26:30.051-06:002014-11-12T15:26:30.051-06:00"Super zombies" sound as an idea a horri..."Super zombies" sound as an idea a horrible one. The thing in zombies to me is the relentless unescapable lurching by a fearsome horde of individually weaklings. The Dawn of Dead type of running zombies already was, ah-ha, a dead idea. <br /><br />Unless of course done totally over the top like for example with zombified cyborg Universal Soldier types breaking out from the same military research facility where they originally developed the zombie pathogen. They could have originally called the cyborg soldiers "warlocks", and now that some/all of them are dead-ish, they could be called... well, I don't know, something's bound to suggest itself I guess.<br /><br />The fortified benevolent human society though, could it in practise be much different than the one in <i>Road Warrior</i>, except that once the hostile zombie siege begins, they would pretty much just hang there? In both sides. For dramatic purposes there would need to be plenty of armored truck escapades to the outside areas, which would necessitate gasoline being available.<br /><br />(daym, I feel like Eric Cartman with my continuously referencing Road Warrior)<br /><br />For my suggestion to new ideas I propose some rare enough zombie animals. Maybe a pack of zombie dogs, a single giant zombie grizzly somewhere. Or, them learning it's a Necromancer in Denver who's behind it all really and who they set out to destroy while the show takes complete turn into fantasy.Teemunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-84489528168086089412014-11-12T11:19:11.184-06:002014-11-12T11:19:11.184-06:00They could explore the idea of a benevolent human ...<i>They could explore the idea of a benevolent human community banding together to help each other out and fortify themselves against the zombie hordes.</i><br /><br />Words cannot describe how much I would like to see this. <br /><br />We've seen the characters struggle to survive in a world overrun by zombies. How about now, we watch them struggle to rebuild a society in a world overrun by zombies? I think that could be endlessly fascinating, and inject a ton of new story ideas into the show. <br /><br /><i>Maybe they could create super zombies?</i><br /><br />Or Super Zombies. That'd work too. <br /><br /><i>As an example of my lack of connection with these characters; this episode prompted me to look up if Maggie is pregnant or not.</i><br /><br />I wonder if the show will ever go down that road again? The resolution of Lori's pregnancy was plenty dramatic, but there's probably more stories that could be told in that area. <br /><br />Certainly, the thought of pregnancy occurred to me when Abraham and Rosita were knocking boots. Hope they're taking precautions...<br /><br /><i>A part of me thought it would be funny if everyone in the bus was just dead after it crashed.</i><br /><br />Heh. It certainly would have been surprising. "Welp, there's half the cast, dead in the opening minutes of an episode halfway through the season." <br /><br /><i>It was odd that Tara tells Eugene to not sabotage the mission again but never thinks to ask why he’s sabotaging the mission in the first place.</i><br /><br />Yeah, that was weird. At first, I just figured he'd sabotaged the mission because he didn't want to split up/leave the church. But then they never actually said that, and just left his reason hanging there, until the very end of the episode. But it was odd that Tara was just like "okay, whatever, don't do it again". <br /><br /><i>They ended up…doing nefarious things…to Abraham’s wife while he was away.</i><br /><br />Of course they did. Because when society breaks down, it's just rape, rape, rape all the time!<br /><br /><i>you get to hear Chris Hardwick say things like, “Part of what’s fun about this show is that every character has to do terrible things.”</i><br /><br />You know, I hear something like that, and it just really hammers home how disconnected I am from (apparently) most of the fans of this show. Also, that Chris Hardwick is a massive tool. Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7266470995513648978.post-34671646929792378322014-11-12T10:24:39.504-06:002014-11-12T10:24:39.504-06:00Having not read the comics, I was still not surpri...Having not read the comics, I was still not surprised at Eugene's revelation. A cure is hope, and this show squashes hope every chance it gets, because apparently people love that shit. <br /><br />I *was* surprised that it was revealed so soon. Like you, I figured they'd drag it out to the last possible moment, like, the group reaches DC, having lost all but two people in the fight to get Eugene to a computer console, zombies and cannibal rapists pounding at the doors, and Abraham yells at Eugene to do his thing. And then he turns and says he's not a scientist and has no idea what to do. <br /><br />I don't think I was as down on the last episode as you; it certainly wasn't action packed and I had my issues with it, but it was still tense enough in a somewhat different way. This one I felt was much more slow moving, and while I appreciated the focus on Abraham (the reveal that he came across Eugene right after his family left him, just as he was about to kill himself, said a lot about his obsession with getting Eugene to Washington without saying a word, a nice bit of smart, restrained writing) I would have liked a little more of consequence to happen (I did get a kick out of the zombies drinking from the hose, though). <br /><br />Maybe that's just because, for me, plot solves a lot of problem. This show has usually eschewed long form plot arcs (or blown them up before they get too long in the tooth), but I think one of the ways to keep the show engaging even while zombies become more and more of a casual thing, is to give the characters some kind of overarching story. Even though I had no expectation that Eugene would cure the plague, I was hoping this storyline would get at least this group of characters to DC. That would them (and the show) a goal, some progress to measure, some way of moving forward even while the episode-to-episode mechanics remained mostly what they are (character moments punctuated by zombie violence). <br /><br />Let's give these characters some kind of objective, let's get them out of Georgia, let's give them something to do other than just survive. Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.com